What is the Starting Time for Modeling Tide Motion Using a Sine Function?

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The discussion revolves around modeling tide motion using a sine function, based on specific height measurements at different times throughout the day. The original poster provides details about the average height, high tide, and low tide, seeking to establish a mathematical model for the tide's behavior.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the characteristics of the sine function, including period, amplitude, and shifts. Questions arise regarding the vertical and horizontal shifts needed to accurately model the tide based on the provided data.

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Participants are actively exploring the parameters of the sine function, with some suggesting potential equations and others questioning the implications of their choices, particularly regarding phase shifts and average height adjustments. There is no explicit consensus on the final model yet.

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There is uncertainty about the time reference for x=0, which affects the phase shift in the sine function model. The problem does not specify this, allowing for different interpretations.

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The tide in a local costal community can be modeled using a sine function. Starting at noon, the tide is at its "average" height of 3 metres measured on a pole located off of the shore. 5 hours later is high tide with the tide at a height of 5 metres measured at the same pole. 15 hours after noon is low tide with the tide at a height of 1 metre measured at the same pole. Use this information to model the tide motion using a sine function. Show all work.
 
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What have you tried so far? Do you know what a general sinusoidal function is going to look like in equation form?
 
i know the period is 12 hours which will be pi/6 in the equation
im pretty sure the amplitude is 2
so i know its going to be something like y=2sin(pi/6x)
but thn i don't know the vertical shift or horizontal shift
 
the phase shift is what I am really having trouble with
 
It says the average height of the tide is 3 meters. [tex]2 \sin(\frac{\pi}{6}x)[/tex] has an average height of 0 (it oscillates between -2 and 2). How much do you have to shift it up to get an average height of 3?

For the phase shift, what time is x=0 going to correspond to?
 
would you shift it up 3?
 
is the answer y=2sin(pi/6x) +3?
 
yesss.. nooo?? haha
 
That could be right. The problem doesn't specify what time x=0 is at. So you get to pick. What time does x=0 represent?
 

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