What is the sum of the series \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{sinn}{2^n}?

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The discussion revolves around the infinite series \(\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{\sin n}{2^n}\), which involves concepts from calculus and series convergence. Participants explore the application of geometric series and the challenges posed by the sine function in the numerator.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to apply the geometric series formula to the problem but express uncertainty about incorporating the sine function. Others question the validity of changing the lower index of the series and the convergence of the series.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches, including the potential use of Euler's formula and the implications of convergence. Participants are sharing insights and clarifying assumptions without reaching a consensus on a specific method.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the geometric series formula is only valid for \(|x| < 1\) and express confusion about the sine function's role in the series. There is also mention of the course context, indicating that this is a first-year Calculus II problem.

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Homework Statement


[tex] \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{sinn}{2^n}[/tex]

Homework Equations


Definition of a geometric series:
[tex] \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}x^n=\frac{1}{1-x}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Basically I can use the geometric series idea and implement it into the denominator of the question (i.e. sub x=2 into the equation from part b and change the lower index to n=1)
[tex] \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}2^n=\frac{1}{1-2}[/tex]

Taking the derivate of both sides:
[tex] \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}n2^{n-1}=\frac{1}{(1-2)^2}[/tex]

Multiplying both sides by 2:
[tex] \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}n2^n=\frac{2}{(1-2)^2}[/tex]

Of course I can simplify the question furthermore and get a single value as a result, my problem is I don't understand on how to incorporate the numerator (sin n) into the problem. Is my approach correct, or am I substituting the wrong x-value?

Thanks in advance for any help/advice. :)
 
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What exactly are you supposed to do with this series?
 
Mark44 said:
What exactly are you supposed to do with this series?

Suppose to solve for the overall sum I'm assuming, the question simply states "Find [tex] <br /> \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{sinn}{2^n}<br /> [/tex]."
 
Ali812 said:
Basically I can use the geometric series idea and implement it into the denominator of the question (i.e. sub x=2 into the equation from part b and change the lower index to n=1)

There are two problems here:

(1) The equation you gave for the geometric series only works for |x| < 1.

(2) We can't simply change the lower index to n=1.
 
Mathnerdmo said:
There are two problems here:

(1) The equation for the geometric series only works for |x| < 1.

(2) We can't simply change the lower index to n=1.

Well that was the only approach I could think of, any other method to solve this question? A starting tip/hint will suffice.
 
I'm also having some difficulty with the sine in the numerator - I haven't done something like this in a while.

What class is this for, by the way? (to give me an idea of methods you have)

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Also, if there is a solution with geometric series, the problems I pointed out can be fixed... you just need to be careful about what you use.
 
Mathnerdmo said:
I'm also having some difficulty with the sine in the numerator - I haven't done something like this in a while.

What class is this for, by the way? (to give me an idea of methods you have)

Calculus II (First year)
 
Mathnerdmo said:
Also, if there is a solution with geometric series, the problems I pointed out can be fixed... you just need to be careful about what you use.

From what I can tell, you can change the lower index to n=1, but I assume I will have to check for convergence first, if the series does converge, I can move ahead with this method, if not, I will need an alternative.
 
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Mathnerdmo said:
If you know Euler's formula (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_formula ), then you should try using that.

I believe we haven't learned that yet unfortunately, however I have determined that the series is absolutely convergent via the comparison test. What r value can i use so [tex] |r| < 1 [/tex], involved with the numerator as well? :S
 
  • #11
Hrmmm... I don't know a solution if you can't use Euler's formula. Sorry.

(doesn't mean there isn't one, but I'm not seeing it)
 
  • #12
I'm with Mathnerdmo. It's pretty easy if you put r=exp(i)/2 and realize your sum is related to the imaginary part of sum(r^n). So |r|<1 and you can treat it as a geometric series. Are you sure you didn't do that in Calc I and just forgot it?
 
  • #13
Dick said:
I'm with Mathnerdmo. It's pretty easy if you put r=exp(i)/2 and realize your sum is related to the imaginary part of sum(r^n). So |r|<1 and you can treat it as a geometric series. Are you sure you didn't do that in Calc I and just forgot it?

After skimming through some info on Euler's formula, I can substitute sinn= (e^in - e^(-in)) / 2i, I'm confused as to what you are trying to state, could you perhaps elaborate? How exactly did you derive with r = exp(i)/2?
 
  • #14
exp(i)^n=exp(in)=cos(n)+i*sin(n). If you sum that series and take the imaginary part you get the sum of sin(n). What happens if you do the same thing with (exp(i)/2)^n?
 

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