What is the Tension in the Tower Crane Cable?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in the cable of a tower crane, specifically focusing on the static equilibrium of a beam supported by a pin joint and frictionless rollers. Participants are working through a homework problem involving torque calculations and the effects of forces acting on the system.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a torque equation to find the tension in the cable, leading to a calculated value of 5114 LB, while the book states the answer is 6770 LB.
  • Another participant points out that the torque calculation for one of the components is incorrect and confirms the book's answer.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the direction of forces and torques, questioning how the tension from one part of the system affects rotation.
  • There is a discussion about the torque contributions from different parts of the system, including a reference to an additional torque from a component labeled AE.
  • A participant draws an analogy between the pulley system and a suspension bridge, indicating a realization about the opposing tensions in the system.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial torque calculations, with one participant confirming the book's answer while another is still working through the problem. The discussion includes corrections and clarifications but remains unresolved regarding the initial calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the direction of forces and the contributions of different torques, indicating potential misunderstandings in the application of static equilibrium principles.

Who May Find This Useful

Students studying statics or mechanics, particularly those working on problems involving torque and equilibrium in structures.

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Homework Statement


The beam ABC is1000LBs and its center of mass is given as 6.5ft to right of B. B is a pin joint. A & D are frictionless rollers. Find tension in cable.

Homework Equations


Call the tension in the cable T.
Trig shows us that the left-hand triangle is 45 degrees at ABD and the right-hand triangle is 15.5 degrees at BCD.
Torque due to wt of load and mass of beam are clockwise and negative; torques due to T are ccw and positive.

The Attempt at a Solution


So the torque at B should be: -(6.5ft)(1000Lb) + -(12ft)(3000LB) + (18ft)(sin15.5)T + (5ft)(sin45)T=0
This yields a T of 5114; the book shows the answer as 6770.
What am I missing?
 

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The part of the torque you calculated for (A) actually goes in the opposite direction, and there is a second part.

I can confirm the book's answer.
 
Thank you for helping! I am trying to work through this statics course on my own, so the Internet is, um, my professor.:biggrin:

So the cable from CD pulls up and to the left, yielding ccw rotation. Shouldn't the tension from D to A pull down and push to the right, also yielding a ccw rotation?

Oh...is the second part that you reference the torque from AE? This yields an additional torque of 5T.
 
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Shouldn't the tension from D to A pull down and push to the right, also yielding a ccw rotation?
It pulls A up and to the right.
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Oh...is the second part that you reference the torque from AE? This yields an additional torque of 5T.
Right.
 
Oh, you can look at the pulley at the top of the crane the same way you'd look at a cable draped across the top of a suspension bridge's tower; so the tension on the right opposes the tension on the left. Now I see. I just needed to brush up on Pulleys 101.

If you add in the torque from AE, then the final value comes out almost exactly to the 6770 that the book shows.

Again, thank you for helping!
 

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