How Do You Calculate Tension in a Crane's Cable in Static Equilibrium?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in a crane's cable while the crane is in static equilibrium. The problem involves a crane supported by a pin and a horizontal cable, with a load suspended from its end. Participants are examining the forces acting on the crane, including the weight of the crane and the load, as well as the tension in the cable.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion and torque related to the crane's setup. There are questions about the forces acting at the pin and whether the normal force from the wall should be included in the analysis. Some participants suggest visualizing the problem differently to clarify the forces involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections to each other's reasoning. There is recognition of the importance of the normal force from the wall, although its contribution to torque is debated. Some participants have offered guidance on redrawing diagrams to better understand the angles involved.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion regarding the angles used in the calculations, and participants are encouraged to reconsider their diagrams and assumptions about the forces acting on the crane.

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Homework Statement



A 25-ft crane supported at its lower end by a pin is elevated by a horizontal cable as shown in the figure. A 250-pound load is suspended from the outer end of the crane. The center of gravity of the crane is 10 feet from the pin, and the crane weighs 200 pounds. What is the tension in the horizontal cable?

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I would just like to know if my equations are missing anything. I generally can solve problems of the nature, but the configuration is different than anything I have done thus far and I am not completely clear on the forces that interact with the crane, especially at the pin/wall.

My equations are

∑Fx=Rcos30-T=0
∑Fy=Rsin30-200-250
∑tau=T(25)cos30-(200)(10)sin30-(250)(25)sin30

Are those correct or is my analysis wrong?
 
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If it helps, imagine rotating the picture so the crane is laying horizontally, then draw the components of the forces that act perpendicular to the crane at their respective locations (see picture attached). That way it is easier to picture the angles of each force acting on the crane. Unless I'm mistaken, the only mistake you made was your calculation for the angles. I wrote my solution below if you want to look at it.

My solution:

There are three forces on the crane, whose magnitudes are:

1. The load’s weight w_l=250lb
2. The crane’s weight w_c=200lb
3. The wire’s tension T =? (the target variable)

Each force creates a torque on the system, whose axis of rotation is on the pin.
The torques are:

1. Load torque: Tau_1=(250lb)(25ft)sin60
2. Crane torque: Tau_2=(200lb)(10ft)sin60
3. Tension torque: Tau_3=T(25ft)sin30

In order for the system to be in rotational equilibrium, the net torque must be zero, so

Tau_3 = Tau_1 + Tau_2
T(25ft)sin30=(250lb)(25ft)sin60+(200lb)(10ft)sin60
T=[(250lb)(25ft)sin60+(200lb)(10ft)sin60]/ (25ft)sin30≈570lb

Hopefully my algebra didn't fail me.
 

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Isnt there a force being exerted by the wall/pin? If the wall wasnt there, the beam would fall down and to the left?
Is the wall's force not in the equation because the components of that force act at a 90 degree angle to the origin and therefore have no torque? Wouldnt the component for the x-axis be in the Etau equation?
 


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I'm sorry, I admit I completely forgot about the normal force from the wall. The wall does in fact exert a force on the beam. If it didn't, then the tension and weight would slingshot the beam down and to the left like you said.

However in this case, the point of rotation for the beam is on the wall where this normal force acts, thus the normal force vector points THROUGH the rotation axis and does not contribute any torque (thus leaving my solution coincidentally unchanged).

In short, your analysis looks right, only you seem to have the wrong angles in your sines. Just redraw a diagram and keep an eye on the angles you are using for the sines and cosines.
 

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