What is the Terminal Velocity of an Object Subjected to Drag Force?

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The discussion revolves around determining the terminal velocity of a 0.5 kg object dropped from a height of 500 meters, subjected to a drag force defined as fD = 2v. Participants are tasked with deriving the velocity function v(t) and the position function y(t), while also plotting v(t) over a specified time interval.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between acceleration, velocity, and drag force, with some attempting to derive the equations of motion. Questions arise regarding the setup of differential equations and the correct application of initial conditions. There is also discussion about the behavior of the velocity function and its graphical representation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts at deriving the equations and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the formulation of differential equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct forms of v(t) and y(t) yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the treatment of gravitational force and mass in the equations, as well as the initial conditions for the displacement function. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the displacement function y(t) reflects the initial height from which the object is dropped.

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Homework Statement


An object of 0.5kg is dropped from rest at an altitude of h=500 meters. It
falls while being subjected to a drag force, defined as: fD = 2v .
Derive explicitly: v(t), and y(t) and plot v(t) given the initial conditions; use: t between 0
and 0.4 seconds, and v between 0 and -3 m/s
Based on your graph for v(t), what is the terminal velocity? Confirm this result
analytically (either using the limit or using Newton).

Homework Equations



a = dv/dt v = dy/dt

The Attempt at a Solution



For my equation i get 2v - mg = ma setting ma = 0 i solve for terminal velocity and get v = mg/2 = 2.45 m/s but I am having trouble explicitly deriving v(t) and y(t) because I end up with v = 9.8t - 4y which is 1 variable too many. How do I derive the equation for v with t as the only variable.
 
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Have you learned about differential equations?

Replacing a=dv/dt, write up the equation of motion in terms of v and t. It is a first-order linear de. Solve with the initial conditions given.

ehild
 
I've taken Calc I and II and I am taking Calc III right now and I never remember having to solve these. So far based on what I just been reading i get v(t) = 2.45 - 2.45e^4t with the initial condition being V(0) = 0. is that right? and if so why is the graph backwards. it seems like it should be 2.45 - 2.45e^-4t but I don't see where I made a mistake.

My work:

dv/dt - 4v = -9.8 I multiplied both sides by e^-4t to get v'e^-4t + -4e^-4t = -9.8e^-4t

so that gets me (ve^-4t)' = -9.8e^-4t

I integrate both sides then try to get v by itself and end up with:

v= 2.45 + ce^4t with v(0) = 0 c = -2.45
 
I changed my frame of reference around and it worked out better using dv/dt + 4v = 9.8.

I also got y(t) = 2.45t + 6.125e^-4t is that right?
 
You forgot to divide g by m. And clarify, what do you mean by y.
Edit: G has to be divided, not g.
ehild
 
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why would I divide gravity by mass?

y is the displacement in the y direction from the point that the object began following
 
Well, you are right, I mixed it with weight...

If y(t) is displacement, it has to be zero at t=0.
Also, the original height is given. I think, the problem asks the height as function of t.

ehild
 

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