What is the value of 1 to the power of infinity?

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical expression of 1 raised to the power of infinity (1). Participants explore its definition, implications, and the conditions under which it may or may not be considered defined, touching on concepts from higher mathematics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions that a senior teacher stated that 1 is not defined, suggesting it involves higher mathematics.
  • Another participant notes that while the limit of 1n as n approaches infinity is 1, taking the logarithm leads to an undefined form of ∞·0.
  • A different viewpoint argues that 1 cannot be defined in integer, real, or extended real number contexts due to the nature of infinity and continuity issues.
  • One participant provides a contradiction by showing that assuming 1 is equal to both +∞ and 1 leads to an inconsistency.
  • Another participant asserts that 1 raised to any root is always 1, implying a perspective that 1 should follow similar reasoning.

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Participants express differing views on whether 1 can be defined, with some arguing it is undefined while others suggest it could be interpreted as 1 under certain conditions. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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Participants highlight limitations in definitions and continuity, particularly regarding the treatment of infinity in various mathematical contexts. There are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the behavior of exponentiation at infinity.

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One of our senior teachers talked about infinity and said that 1 is not defined. On deeper probing, he said that it is a bit higher mathematics and it wouldn't be appropriate to go deeper here. Naturally, I could think of a inductive proof that it should be 1, if ∞ ∊ N. I can't think of a reason why this is untrue.
 
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While it is true that \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} 1^n = 1. If you take log(1^\infty), you end up with \infty\cdot0 which is undefined. One issue is there are many different ways to write an undefined term. You can write 0/0 as \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{x}{x} and see it equals 1 but 0/0 could mean anything. A good example of 1^\infty is the continuous interest formula \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} (1+\frac{r}{n})^{tn}. With knowledge of l'hospital's rule, you can evaluate this to be e^{rt}.
 
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Ralph Spencer said:
I can't think of a reason why this is untrue.

It's not true of integer exponentiation, because +∞ is not an integer. number.

It's not true of real number exponentiation, because +∞ is not a real number.

It's not true of extended real number exponentiation, because mathematicians find it preferable to leave arithmetic undefined at points where it cannot be continuous.

Why cannot extended real number exponentiation be continuous at 1+∞? Assume that it really is. Then,
1^{+\infty} = \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} (1 + x^2)^{+\infty} = \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} (+\infty) = +\infty

1^{+\infty} = \lim_{x \rightarrow +\infty} 1^x = \lim_{x \rightarrow +\infty} 1 = 1
which contradicts the fact that 1 and +∞ are not equal.
 
not defined as 1 to the root anything is always going to be 1
 

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