What is the value of the sum of reciprocals of the roots in a cubic equation?

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The discussion focuses on finding the value of the sum of the reciprocals of the squares of the roots, specifically expressed as \(\dfrac{1}{p^2}+\dfrac{1}{q^2}+\dfrac{1}{r^2}\), for the cubic equation \(x^3 + ax^2 - 4x + 3 = 0\). Participants explored the implications of varying coefficients, particularly the parameter \(a\), and its effect on the roots \(p, q, r\). The conversation highlights the mathematical techniques involved in deriving these values, emphasizing the importance of understanding cubic equations and their roots.

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If $p,\,q,\,r$ are roots of the equation $x^3+ax^2-4x+3=0$, find the value of $\dfrac{1}{p^2}+\dfrac{1}{q^2}+\dfrac{1}{r^2}$ in terms of $a$.
 
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anemone said:
If $p,\,q,\,r$ are roots of the equation $x^3+ax-4x+3=0$, find the value of $\dfrac{1}{p^2}+\dfrac{1}{q^2}+\dfrac{1}{r^2}$ in terms of $a$.

We have (Vieta's formulas):
\begin{aligned}
p+q+r&=-a \\
pq+pr+qr&=-4 \\
pqr&=-3 \\
\end{aligned}

Define $A=pq, B=pr, C=qr$. Then:
\begin{array}{}
A+B+C&=&-4 \\
AB+AC+BC&=&pqr(p+q+r)&=&-3 \cdot -a &=& 3a \\
A^2+B^2+C^2 &=& (A+B+C)^2 - 2(AB+AC+BC) &=& (-4)^2 - 2\cdot 3a&=&16-6a
\end{array}

Therefore:
$$\dfrac{1}{p^2}+\dfrac{1}{q^2}+\dfrac{1}{r^2}
=\frac{(pq)^2 + (pr)^2 + (qr)^2}{(pqr)^2}
=\frac{A^2 + B^2 + C^2}{(-3)^2}
=\frac{16-6a}{9}$$
 
anemone said:
If $p,\,q,\,r$ are roots of the equation $x^3+ax-4x+3=0$, find the value of $\dfrac{1}{p^2}+\dfrac{1}{q^2}+\dfrac{1}{r^2}$ in terms of $a$.

I think you mean $x^3+ax^2-4x+3= 0 $

if p, q ,r are roots of f(x) then 1/p,1/q. 1/r are roots of f(1/x) = 0

or $3x^3-4x^2+ax+1 = 0 $

so $(\frac{1}{p}+\frac{1}{q} + \frac{1}{r}) = 4/3$

$(\frac{1}{pq} + \frac{1}{qr} +\frac{1}{rp} ) = a/3$

or hence $\frac{1}{p^2} + \frac{1}{q^2} + \frac{1}{r^2} = (\frac{1}{p}+\frac{1}{q} + \frac{1}{r})^2 – 2(\frac{1}{pq} + \frac{1}{qr} +\frac{1}{rp} ) = \frac{16-6a}{9}$
 
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Hey, the two of you are doing so great today by solving my two challenge problems in such a perfect and neat way! :o Well done!(Cool)

I am looking forward to see some challenging problems to play instead...(Wink)(Sun)
 
Hello, anemone!

\text{If }p,\,q,\,r\text{ are roots of the equation}
x^3+ax-4x+3=0,\,\text{find the value}
\text{of }\tfrac{1}{p^2}+\tfrac{1}{q^2}+\tfrac{1}{r^2}\, \text{ in terms of }a.
From Vieta's formulas: . \begin{array}{ccc}p + q + r \:=\:\text{-}a & [1] \\ pq + qr + pr \:=\:\text{-}4 & [2] \\ pqr \:=\:\text{-}3 & [3] \end{array}

Square [2]:
. . (pq+qr+pr)^2 \:=\: (\text{-}4)^2

. . p^2q^2 + q^2r^2 + p^2r^2 + 2p^2qr + 2pq^2r + 2pqr^2 \:=\:16

. . p^2q^2+ q^2r^2+p^2r^2 + 2\underbrace{pqr}_{\text{-}3}\underbrace{(p+q+r)}_{\text{-}a} \:=\:16

. . p^2q^2+q^2<br /> r^2+p^2r^2 + 6a \:=\:16

. . p^2q^2+q^2r^2+p^2r^2 \:=\:16-6a .[4]Square [3]: .(pqr)^2 \:=\; (\text{-}3)^2 \quad\Rightarrow\quad p^2q^2r^2 \:=\:9 .[5]We have: .\frac{1}{p^2} + \frac{1}{q^2} + \frac{1}{r^2} \;=\; \frac{p^2q^2 + q^2r^2 + p^2r^2}{p^2q^2r^2}Substitute [4] and [5].

Therefore: .\frac{1}{p^2} + \frac{1}{q^2} + \frac{1}{r^2} \;=\;\frac{16-6a}{9}
 
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soroban said:
Hello, anemone!

From Vieta's formulas: . \begin{array}{ccc}p + q + r \:=\:\text{-}a &amp; [1] \\ pq + qr + pr \:=\:\text{-}4 &amp; [2] \\ pqr \:=\:\text{-}3 &amp; [3] \end{array}

Square [2]:
. . (pq+qr+pr)^2 \:=\: (\text{-}4)^2

. . p^2q^2 + q^2r^2 + p^2r^2 + 2p^2qr + 2pq^2r + 2pqr^2 \:=\:16

. . p^2q^2+ q^2r^2+p^2r^2 + 2\underbrace{pqr}_{\text{-}3}\underbrace{(p+q+r)}_{\text{-}a} \:=\:16

. . p^2q^2+q^2<br /> r^2+p^2r^2 + 6a \:=\:16

. . p^2q^2+q^2r^2+p^2r^2 \:=\:16-6a .[4]Square [3]: .(pqr)^2 \:=\; (\text{-}3)^2 \quad\Rightarrow\quad p^2q^2r^2 \:=\:9 .[5]We have: .\frac{1}{p^2} + \frac{1}{q^2} + \frac{1}{r^2} \;=\; \frac{p^2q^2 + q^2r^2 + p^2r^2}{p^2q^2r^2}Substitute [4] and [5].

Therefore: .\frac{1}{p^2} + \frac{1}{q^2} + \frac{1}{r^2} \;=\;\frac{16-6a}{9}

Thanks for participating and well done, soroban! :)
 

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