What is the Velocity of a Satellite Orbiting Earth at a Distance R?

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The discussion revolves around determining the velocity of a satellite orbiting Earth at a distance R from its center. The problem involves concepts from gravitational physics and orbital mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between gravitational force and centripetal force, with some attempting to equate them. Questions arise regarding the validity of using constant gravitational acceleration and the implications of distance R in calculations.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights into the gravitational force equations and the need to consider the mass of the Earth relative to the satellite. There is a recognition of the importance of using the correct expressions for gravitational force and acceleration. Some participants express uncertainty about the assumptions being made, particularly regarding the distance R.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions related to gravitational acceleration not being constant at larger distances, and the implications this has for the calculations being performed. Participants also note the lack of specific values for R in the original problem statement.

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Homework Statement


Find the velocity of a satellite which circles the Earth at a distance R from the Earth's centre.

Homework Equations


Fc = (m*v^2)/r
W = mg

The Attempt at a Solution


I put Fc = W (I think I can do that?)
so (v^2)/R = g
v = sqrt(10R)

I'm not sure if my answer is right or if I'm supposed to actually work out with R is. Can anyone help?
 
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g is not constant over large radial distances. The assumption of constant g also assumes that the physics is taking place 'near the Earth's surface'.

Instead of using W = mg, use the full expression for the Newtonian force due to gravity.
 
Hi.

Use this relation:

F = G*m*M/d²

Here: - m is the mass of satellite.
- M is the mass of the Earth.
- d is the distance between the center of the Earth and the Satellite.
- G is the gravitationnal constant.

Warning for the distance ;) !

Good Luck.
 
Fg = Gm1m2/d^2
I think I can just use one m since the mass of the Earth is very large realtive to the satellite.
so Fg = Gm/R^2
put Fg = Fc
and I get v= sqrt(G/R)
where G is the gravitational constant

I presume I'm supposed to have the variable R in my answer since they didn't give it in the question?
 
dvvv said:
Fg = Gm1m2/d^2
I think I can just use one m since the mass of the Earth is very large realtive to the satellite.

No, m1 and m2 are multiplied, not added. A small number multiplied by a much larger number is an even larger number.

Also consider the units of the equation. While F = G*m1*M2/r2 is a force, G*m1/r2 is not -- it's an acceleration (because F/m2 is an acceleration by Newton's second law). But this is a big clue! You can calculate the acceleration due to gravity of the satellite. What other acceleration is operating here to balance it?

I presume I'm supposed to have the variable R in my answer since they didn't give it in the question?

That's right.
 
g = G*M/R^2
centripetal acceleration a = (v^2)/R
g = a
I get v = sqrt(G*M/R)

:confused:
 
Don't be confused, that's a perfectly fine result!
 
Ok, thanks for your help. :)
 

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