What Is the Velocity of End B When the Rod Makes a 60° Angle with the Ground?

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The problem involves a rod fixed at one end, with the other end moving as a block approaches it. The specific question is about determining the velocity of the free end of the rod when it makes a 60° angle with the ground, given the block's velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply differentiation to relate the distances and velocities of the rod's ends. Some participants question the correctness of the calculations and assumptions made during the differentiation process.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in checking each other's calculations and assumptions. There is a recognition of a mistake in the tangent value used, which has led to a revised calculation of the vertical component of the velocity of end B. However, the final velocity of end B remains unclear, with ongoing questions about its interpretation.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the components of velocity and the timing of study, indicating a casual atmosphere among participants. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their approach and results.

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Homework Statement


A rod AB is shown in figure. End A of the rod is fixed on the ground. Block is moving with velocity √3 m/s towards right. The velocity of end B when rod makes an angle of 60o with the ground.
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The Attempt at a Solution


I assumed that at any instant the distance of A from block is x and distance of B from ground is y. The length of rod is l.
l^2=x^2+y^2
Differentiating with respect to time.
0=2x(dx/dt)+2y(dy/dt)
y=xtan(60o)
dx/dt=√3 m/s
Solving, i get

(dy/dt)=-3 m/s
But that's not correct, the answer says its 2 m/s. I don't seem to get where i am wrong.
Any help is appreciated. :smile:

Thanks!
 
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Hi Pranav! :smile:

Pranav-Arora said:
y=xtan(60o)
dx/dt=√3 m/s
Solving, i get

(dy/dt)=-3 m/s

Are you sure about that step?

Recheck your solving,

[tex]0 = 2x\sqrt{3} + 2\sqrt{3} x \frac{dy}{dt}[/tex]
 
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Infinitum said:
Hi Pranav! :smile:

Are you sure about that step?

Recheck your solving,

[tex]0 = 2x\sqrt{3} + 2\sqrt 3 x \frac{dy}{dt}[/tex]

Oh yes, sorry, my mistake, i wrote tan60=1/√3. :-p

But now i get (dy/dt)=-1.
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Oh yes, sorry, my mistake, i wrote tan60=1/√3. :-p

But now i get (dy/dt)=-1.

Yes. That's correct. So, what's the velocity of the end B of the rod now?
 
Infinitum said:
Yes. That's correct. So, what's the velocity of the end B of the rod now?

Isn't (dy/dt) the velocity of the end B?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Isn't (dy/dt) the velocity of the end B?

That is the vertical component of B's velocity :wink:
 
Infinitum said:
That is the vertical component of B's velocity :wink:

Ah i get it, thanks for the help Infinitum!
I shouldn't be studying Physics at midnight.
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Ah i get it, thanks for the help Infinitum!
:smile:
I shouldn't be studying Physics at midnight.

Good night, then :wink:
 
Good night, then :wink:
Hehe, no, i am posting one more question and then i will go to sleep. :D
 

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