What is the volume inside an ellipsoid between two intersecting planes?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the volume between the planes y=0 and y=x within the ellipsoid defined by the equation x²/a² + y²/b² + z²/c² = 1. The approach involves changing variables to transform the ellipsoid into a sphere, allowing for the use of spherical coordinates. A key point of confusion arises regarding the limits of integration for the polar angle θ, where the correct limit is arctan(b/a) rather than π/4. The volume of the resulting slice is derived as V = abc (2π/3) arctan(b/a), which accounts for the ellipsoid's dimensions. Understanding the relationship between the planes and the spherical coordinates is essential for setting up the integral correctly.
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Homework Statement



Find the volume between the planes ##y=0## and ##y=x## and inside the ellipsoid ##\frac{x^2}{a^2} + \frac{y^2}{b^2} + \frac{z^2}{c^2} = 1##

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I understand we can approach this problem under the change of variables:

$$x=au; y= bv; z=cw$$

Thus we get:

$$V= \iiint_R \,dxdydz = abc\iiint_S \,dudvdw$$

At this point the ellipsoid has become a sphere. Thus we could use spherical coordinates to compute the volume.

My issue is with the extremes of the integral; concretely with the $\theta$ angle. I would set up the integral like this:

$$\int_{0}^{\pi / 4} d\theta \int_{0}^{\pi / 2} d\phi \int_{0}^{1} dr$$

But the stated solution is:

$$\int_{0}^{\tan^{-1} (a/b)} d\theta \int_{0}^{\pi / 2} d\phi \int_{0}^{1} dr$$

My extremes make sense to me; it is just about visualizing a sphere and two intersecting planes. But ##\tan^{-1} (a/b)## confuses me.

What's wrong and why?
 
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Hi,

It would appear that if ##\ \ y = x \quad \Rightarrow\ \ \arctan(1) ## is a bound for the coordinates before the change. Guess what the corresponding bound is afterwards ?
 
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Homework Statement



Find the volume between the planes ##y=0## and ##y=x## and inside the ellipsoid ##\frac{x^2}{a^2} + \frac{y^2}{b^2} + \frac{z^2}{c^2} = 1##

The Attempt at a Solution



I understand we can approach this problem under the change of variables:

$$x=au; y= bv; z=cw$$

Thus we get:

$$V= \iiint_R \,dxdydz = abc\iiint_S \,dudvdw$$

At this point the ellipsoid has become a sphere. Thus we could use spherical coordinates to compute the volume.

My issue is with the extremes of the integral; concretely with the $\theta$ angle. I would set up the integral like this:

$$\int_{0}^{\pi / 4} d\theta \int_{0}^{\pi / 2} d\phi \int_{0}^{1} dr$$

But the stated solution is:

$$\int_{0}^{\tan^{-1} (a/b)} d\theta \int_{0}^{\pi / 2} d\phi \int_{0}^{1} dr$$

My extremes make sense to me; it is just about visualizing a sphere and two intersecting planes. But ##\tan^{-1} (a/b)## confuses me.

What's wrong and why?

Assuming that ##\theta## is the polar angle, the volume element in spherical coordinates is ##r^2 \sin \theta \, dr \, d\theta \, d\phi,## so you should have ##\int_0^1 r^2 \, dr,## not ##\int_0^1 dr.##
 
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In polar ( spherical ) coordinates ... is not simple $$ d\theta\space d\phi \space dr $$
but $$ r d\theta\space r\sin \theta d\phi \space dr $$

Let me find the picture ... aa here it is ..
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But also you can do it without calculus ( to check the result ) by careful thinking
if you compress ellipsoid
in x direction by a times
in y direction by b times
in z direction by c times you will get nice round ball

you want to calculate volume of the slice of ball between
y=0 ... x, z plane and
x/a=y/b plane => b/a=y/x

##\theta## goes from 0 to ## \arctan{ \frac{b}{a}} ##

Volume of the ball with radius r=1 is ##V= \frac{4\pi}{3} ##
Volume of the slice is ##V= \frac{4\pi}{3} \space \frac{\arctan{\frac{b}{a}} }{2\pi} ##
##V= \frac{2\pi}{3} \arctan{\frac{b}{a}}##
and when you stench back the ball to the ellipsoid
##V=abc \frac{2\pi}{3} \arctan{\frac{b}{a}}##
 
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Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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