What Is the Work Done When Moving a Mass from X to Y?

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The problem involves calculating the work done when moving a 1kg mass from point X to point Y, where X and Y are at different gravitational potentials relative to the Earth. The gravitational potential at point X is given as -800 kJ/kg, and the distances from the center of the Earth to points X and Y are R and 2R, respectively.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use integration to understand the relationship between gravitational potential and work done but questions the validity of this approach. Some participants suggest that integration may not be necessary and propose using known values of gravitational potential to find the work done.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, with some providing guidance on using the change in potential energy to determine work done. There is a recognition that the original poster's mathematical approach may have been overly complex, and a simpler method is suggested.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the physical significance of integrating potential energy and the properties of conservative forces in the context of gravitational fields. The original poster expresses confusion about the integration approach and seeks clarification.

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Homework Statement


X & Y are two points at respective distances R and 2R from the centre of the Earth, where R is greater than the radius of the Earth. The gravitational potential at X is -800kJkg^-1. When a 1kg mass is taken from X to Y, what is the work done on the mass?

Homework Equations


Gravitational Potential = -GM/r
U= -GMm/r

The Attempt at a Solution


I have thought over this question and tried using integration to make sense of it since gravitational potential and U varies w/ r. But when I tried thinking along the lines of integration, I find myself wondering what does the integrated value of graph U against r represent as it does not concur with what I am trying to find with regards to the concept of homogeneity. Is my idea of trying to integrate wrong? Or is my concept wrong to begin with? Please help, thank you.
 
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I don't think you need to integrate. Since you know the gravitational potential (often called [itex]\psi[/itex] or [itex]\phi[/itex]) at R, you can easily figure out what it is at 2R, since the form of the function [itex]\phi(r)[/itex] is known.

Once you get the potential at 2R, you know the potential energy that this particular mass therefore has at 2R. You can compare that to the potential energy it had back when it was only at R. Recall that the work done by a conservative force on an object is equal to the negative of that object's change in potential energy.
 
Thank you! I guess I thought about it too mathematically, now it makes sense to me.
 
The work done in moving a mass between two points is the difference in the potential energy (U). As far as I know, integrating U doesn't have any physical significance. By definition, U is the work done by the gravitational field of an object to move it from a point to infinity. Thus if you consider the difference in the potential energies at any two points, you can find the work required to move a body between those two points.

EDIT: Looks like someone else beat me to it!
 
Sorry, but I can't understand your question.
However, why don't you use the property that gravitational field is a conservative one?
 
Yeap, I tried that and it worked :D thanks guys.
 

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