What is with all the homework question in the chem forum?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the prevalence of homework questions in the chemistry forum and the desire for more substantive scientific discussions. Participants explore the idea of establishing a journal club to discuss recent research topics and developments in chemistry.

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  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express frustration over the number of homework-related posts, suggesting that the chemistry forum should host more engaging scientific discussions.
  • Others argue that many users may not be aware of the dedicated homework forum, leading to confusion about where to post questions.
  • A few participants propose the idea of a journal club to discuss recent developments in chemistry, with suggestions for a less formal version in the Mind & Brain forum.
  • There is a suggestion that the low number of active chemistry participants may be due to the perceived complexity of the subject compared to physics.
  • Some participants believe that a significant understanding of chemistry is required to engage in meaningful discussions, which may deter casual enthusiasts.
  • One participant expresses interest in starting a discussion on Matrix Isolation Spectroscopy, contingent on gathering enough interest from others.
  • Concerns are raised about ensuring discussions remain accessible to those without advanced degrees in chemistry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is a need for more substantive discussions in the chemistry forum, but there is no consensus on how to implement this or whether a regular journal club would be effective.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the level of understanding required for meaningful chemistry discussions may limit participation, and there is an acknowledgment of varying levels of expertise among forum members.

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Readers interested in chemistry discussions, community engagement in scientific topics, and those looking to participate in or initiate collaborative research discussions.

gravenewworld
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it seems like most of the posts in this forum get moved to hw. come on now, can't we have any good chem topics that don't have to do with hw?
 
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People just don't realize that there is a homework forum so they assume that the chemistry forum is for chemistry homework questions. I think people should scan the website better before choosing where to post.
 
The new forum policy is acceptable, I think the moderators and administrators are seeking more scientific topics discussed right here, other general and strictly homework-related topics are wanted to be posted in another parts of this forum.
 
If the forum had enough regulars, something periodic, like a journal club thread discussing new developments might provoke interesting discussion.

As of now, there's not more than 7 or 8 members that are active in Chemistry on a fairly regular basis.
 
Wow, how come so little?
 
Maybe I'll use this opportunity to get a feeler for who here would be interested in having a journal club type discussion on recent research topics or developments in the field.

Maybe we could have a less formal version of the journal club thread in the Mind & Brain forum ? Something like the current discussion on organosilanes, perhaps...but with the OP putting in some extra effort to introduce/summarize the topic in a paragraph or two.

Anyone interested ?
 
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The P-manator said:
Wow, how come so little?
It's because most people have a fairly good grasp of chemistry. It rarely boggles the mind or provokes thought until you get into the complicated parts, but when you're at that level, the internet is not where you'll find the answer.
Physics is different. The simplest parts, like F = ma, will always confuse people. There will always be a lot of people asking about physics.
 
Gokul43201 said:
Maybe I'll use this opportunity to get a feeler for who here would be interested in having a journal club type discussion on recent research topics or developments in the field.

Maybe we could have a less formal version of the journal club thread in the Mind & Brain forum ? Something like the current discussion on organosilanes, perhaps...but with the OP putting in some extra effort to introduce/summarize the topic in a paragraph or two.

Anyone interested ?


sounds good
 
gravenewworld said:
sounds good
As a trial, let me kick this off. Sometime next week, I'll write up an introduction to a topic of interest or curiosity. First though, I'm going to send out PMs to people that I think might have an interest in the same field. If I get at least 5 positive responses, I'll go ahead and start up the discussion...and maybe get a mentor to sticky it.

If that works out well, we could have different members offer to start up discussions every fortnight or so.

Edit : I think I've got a topic for the first discussion : Matrix Isolation Spectroscopy - it's something I've been curious about and wanted to do some reading up on anyway. It might be of interest to anyone who cares about analytical chemistry, organometallics or solid state spectroscopy. If interested in participating in this discussion, reply here. If I get 5 people in, I'll get this rolling.
 
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I would say that most people have a worse understanding of chemistry than physics. People can catch on to physics, it's direct application of math to physics theory. Some people may feel that they have a good understanding of chemistry, while in truth they may be completely inadequate. One has to be pretty adept to engage in a discussion on important chemistry topics; mathematically, as well as adept in the general scientific sense. That's why there are so few chemistry enthusiast, because most people don't know where to start (not trying to elevate myself here, I would say that I have an adequate chemistry savvy).

Matrix Isolation Spectroscopy sounds interesting, I wouldn't mind exploring the subject. As for the scheduled journal club, I feel that it wouldn't work on a regular basis, although I wouldn't mind occasional discussions, such as the one Gokul proposed.
 
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Another thing to keep in mind is that most of us, I believe, in this forum don't have phd's in chemistry, so you might want to keep it on a level everyone can understand so that all can contribute.
 
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Heck, I don't have a college degree in chemistry. :biggrin:

I'm hardly much more informed on the subject than the average science enthusiast. I'm hoping some of the chemists and spectroscopists out here (there's a couple that lurk in the physics sections - I'll PM them) can shed more light on the matter (no pun intended).
 
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About the discussion thing, it sounds cool. Should be fun. Good topic, too.
 

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