What additional courses should I take as a chem major?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around course selection for a chemistry major considering graduate school. Participants explore the relevance of various mathematics and chemistry courses, as well as the importance of undergraduate research experience.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) is considering discrete mathematics and questions its utility in chemistry.
  • Some participants suggest that group theory may be relevant to chemistry, but question whether the entire discrete math course is necessary.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of discussing course options with an academic adviser.
  • Another participant points out the need to consider required electives outside the major, such as foreign language or physical education courses.
  • A participant asks about the specific subfield of chemistry the OP intends to pursue in graduate school, noting that recommendations may vary significantly based on this choice.
  • It is mentioned that undergraduate research experience may be more valuable than elective courses for graduate school applications.
  • One participant reflects on past university requirements for electives and suggests that current policies may differ.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and relevance of discrete mathematics and group theory for chemistry, and there is no consensus on the best course of action regarding electives and research experience.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the potential requirement of broad electives outside the major, which may influence course selection. Additionally, the OP's current academic standing may limit available options.

Who May Find This Useful

Chemistry majors considering graduate school, students exploring elective courses in relation to their major, and those interested in the intersection of mathematics and chemistry.

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I am a sophomore chem major taking my second semester of organic. I plan on going to grad school. I took calc 2 last semester but calc 3 is not offered next semester so that is sadly out of the question. I can't take classical mechanics without calc 3 and I've already taken prob. and stats. No higher level stats courses offered. I have considered taking discrete mathematics (which includes topics such as logic and proofs, set theory, relations, cardinal numbers, countable and uncountable sets, permutations and combinations, graph theory, and group theory) but I don't know how useful that would be in chemistry and if it would be worth all the effort.

Any other course suggestions or ideas?
 
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Group theory might be applicable to chemistry, but might not be worth the trouble of going through the rest of the discrete math course. Can you talk to an academic adviser at your university or college.
 
mpresic said:
Group theory might be applicable to chemistry, but might not be worth the trouble of going through the rest of the discrete math course. Can you talk to an academic adviser at your university or college.
I do have an advisor though I won't be able to talk to him until the first day of class on Tuesday. I want to at least have an idea of what class to take so I know to attend if its first day happens to be Tuesday.
 
I do not know if you need to take any required broad electives outside your major. I know at my university, you had to take or place out of a foreign language, had a Phys Ed requirement, or something like that.
 
What type of chemistry do you want to study in grad school? Organic, physical, inorganic, analytic, computational, biochemical? Chemistry is so broad that the recommendations would differ significantly based on the subfield of chemistry you'd like to specialize in.

Also , if you want to go to graduate school, getting undergraduate research experience is vastly more valuable than any set of electives you might take.
 
The OP is a sophomore and may not have taken particular electives the school requires by this time. I know where I went to school it was impossible to place out of all electives until completing the sophomore year. One elective was required per semester for the first two years, although this was > 30 years ago. Probably by now, most schools have eliminated phys ed requirements or foreign language requirements or electives outside the major, but who knows.

I do agree that undergraduate research will be vastly more valuable for grad school, but you may have to satisfy the university or colleges requirements regarding electives to graduate with a Bachelors Degree, and to even make it into the admissions process.
 

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