Which Bread Reigns Supreme: Dark Rye Sourdough, Focaccia, Banana, or Seeded?

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This discussion centers around the various types of bread, specifically highlighting dark rye sourdough, focaccia, banana bread, and seeded bread. Participants express their preferences, noting the unique qualities of each type, such as the density of sourdough and the heartiness of farmhouse loaves. The conversation also delves into personal experiences with homemade bread, emphasizing the benefits of using wild yeast for flavor development in sourdough. Ultimately, the consensus is that fresh, homemade bread is superior, with a strong preference for specific combinations of fillings and types of bread.

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and why? Dark, rye sourdough? Focaccia? Banana bread…? Seeded?
 
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ergospherical said:
and why? Dark, rye sourdough? Focaccia? Banana bread…? Seeded?
To eat what?

Where shall I start? We have twice as many sorts of bread as we have breweries!
 
ergospherical said:
What is your favourite[sic] bread?
Good bread. I like good bread. There are all kinds of bread and sometimes it's good (of that kind) and sometimes it isn't. I like it when it is.
 
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Quite soft, but
 
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I’m experimenting with making a bunch of sandwiches with different breads for next week; need some crazy ideas.
 
ergospherical said:
I’m experimenting with making a bunch of sandwiches with different breads for next week; need some crazy ideas.
How far from the usual triangle sandwiches at the local gas station do you want to go?
 
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fresh_42 said:
How far from the usual triangle sandwiches at the local gas station do you want to go?
Those do irritate me... sandwiches should be rectangular :)

I think my favourite three are probably:
- farmhouse loaf; hearty, traditional & nice with scrambled eggs
- sourdough; somewhat more nutritious and packs a bit more flavour than regular bread. However, it is a little more dense, so one cannot have too much of it.
- naan bread; no Indian take-away would be complete without it.

On the flip-side, I really can't stand the texture of seeded bread - which is a shame, because I do rather like the whole-grain/darker breads (which are the ones that are often filled with seeds).
 
I crave a Muffalata sandwich on a nice round french farmhouse Boule. Full of cured meats, cheeses and olives it is certainly not a healthful delight, but one my favorite sandwiches. Best if pressed overnight in the fridge. A spherical picnic

For just the bread you need to mention a well-made bagel, too.
 
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A bun with butter, fresh ground beef (raw), onions, salt, and pepper.
 
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That reminds me... I did have a brilliant salt beef bagel (w/ gherkin & english mustard) in Borough Market a few months back. I don't usually go for bagels since they're pretty highly calorific, but I think in that instance it was well worth it :)
 
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ergospherical said:
I’m experimenting with making a bunch of sandwiches with different breads for next week; need some crazy ideas.
Peanut butter and pickled onions.

 
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vela said:
Peanut butter and pickled onions.
Sacrelige! (Spellcheck says no dice.)
 
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ergospherical said:
and why? Dark, rye sourdough? Focaccia? Banana bread…? Seeded?
It depends on the fillings. I usually like dark or marbled rye with pastrami and pepperjack cheese, or with a 'Reuben'. I like Starbuck's gouda and bacon breakfast sandwich in a ciabatta roll, or a panini (focaccia) with steak and cheese, with jalapeños and pepperoncinis.

At home we use multigrain breads or rolls.
 
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Astronuc said:
... or a panini ...
The singular should be panino, surely?
 
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What is it with people and Sourdough? I have made my own bread for years and years, starting off with bread-makers (I wore out two before moving on to my present one). For the past five or six years, I have used a kitchen mixer to do the hard work and it's consistent; that's important to get reliable baking results. So I think I know the business well enough.
I tried sourdough and got the starter to work after a week or so (iirc). The results were disappointing but much the same as the hyped up stuff I've bought in 'good' bakers' shops. The sour taste is not unpleasant but different from regular bread. The holes are enormous and the crust it chewy and not crisp.
If I want big holes, I make a ciabatta style. If I want 'sour', I make sandwiches with the appropriate cheese.
I think Sourdough is an example of the Emperor's New Clothes, frankly. It's just not special in any way. Faffing around with the starter is just another task and it's a bad as having to look after a pet!
 
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ergospherical said:
On the flip-side, I really can't stand the texture of seeded bread - which is a shame, because I do rather like the whole-grain/darker breads (which are the ones that are often filled with seeds).
Seems to me you should consider making your own bread. You can choose from a whole range of flours and can go for any 'colour' / taste you like without needing to include the seeds. I usually have a regular very strong white base, for a reliable 'bubbles' and 'cut it' with more interesting flour.

People pay a fortune for anything that's not plastic and sliced in a bag.
 
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Homemade white loaf stuffed with cheese and jalopeños. Probably a bit of thyme in there as well.
 
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vela said:
Peanut butter and pickled onions.
I confess to a fondness for peanut butter and dill pickle on whole wheat toast. I'm not proud of it but there it is...\
 
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Damn it, I knew I shouldn't have opened this thread when lunch is still hours away...

and Brioche mmmmm. Basically just a vehicle for butter mmmmmm.
 
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hutchphd said:
I confess to a fondness for peanut butter and dill pickle on whole wheat toast. I'm not proud of it but there it is...\
I have a personal objective to try to learn to like peanut butter, so that I have a good alternative to my cheese sandwich when I'm out hill-walking.
 
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Bystander said:
Sacrelige! (Spellcheck says no dice.)
I always get this word wrong so I looked it up...it is sacrilege: from the latin legere=to steal. Now I will remember.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
Seems to me you should consider making your own bread. You can choose from a whole range of flours and can go for any 'colour' / taste you like without needing to include the seeds. I usually have a regular very strong white base, for a reliable 'bubbles' and 'cut it' with more interesting flour.
When time permits... but perhaps more problematic is that my kitchen doesn't have an oven :)
 
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Life's too short to start making your own bread.
 
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ergospherical said:
When time permits... but perhaps more problematic is that my kitchen doesn't have an oven :)
As tempting as it might be, please avoid open fire!
 
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fresh_42 said:
As tempting as it might be, please avoid open fire!
Ah, that must be why the fire-alarm's been going off at 8am pretty much every other day this past week; all the students must have for some reason decided to try their hand at baking snøbrod over makeshift campfires. I'll stick to my trusty microwave, thanks!
 
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Haborix said:
Damn it, I knew I shouldn't have opened this thread when lunch is still hours away...

and Brioche mmmmm. Basically just a vehicle for butter mmmmmm.
Put an egg in it and call it breakfast or brunch.
 
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PeroK said:
Life's too short to start making your own bread.
My parents made homemade bread a family affair.

For whatever reason, one day dad decided to make bread, so he and mom made a large batch of bread dough. Kids got involved, mainly because so many loaves and kneading dough correctly took a while. We would fill several tins then fill the oven which was set to low heat. Tins that didn't go into the oven went on top of the water heater. The bread was actually very good, and we gave away loaves to friends.

Mom and dad also made homemade marmalade, with some variations with orange and grapefruit. We might have made lemon and lime one time, but it was mostly orange and grapefruit.

In my early years, we grew a lot of our own food, since we lived in two rural towns. My mom made a lot of preserves, and pies and cakes from scratch. She stopped making preserves once we moved to the suburbs of a large city, but pies and cakes continued.
 
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hutchphd said:
I always get this word wrong so I looked it up...it is sacrilege:
The one combination I didn't try...the root isn't "religion," at least as I was thinking.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
I tried sourdough and got the starter to work after a week or so (iirc). The results were disappointing but much the same as the hyped up stuff I've bought in 'good' bakers' shops. The sour taste is not unpleasant but different from regular bread. The holes are enormous and the crust it chewy and not crisp.
If I want big holes, I make a ciabatta style. If I want 'sour', I make sandwiches with the appropriate cheese.
I think Sourdough is an example of the Emperor's New Clothes, frankly. It's just not special in any way. Faffing around with the starter is just another task and it's a bad as having to look after a pet!
The idea behind sourdough isn't so much to make sour bread, but to use wild yeast to leaven the bread. Wild yeast takes a lot longer than commercial yeast to get going, so the dough takes longer to ferment, which generally means better flavor. A side effect of the longer fermentation time is that the bacteria have more time to produce acids, making the dough sour if given enough time.

You can make sourdough that isn't sour. That's usually what I do since I don't care for sour bread. And if you make it right, the crust will come out crispy, though I haven't had much luck with my last few loaves.
 
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vela said:
You can make sourdough that isn't sour.
None of you guys seem to know how good sausage has to taste. It requires sourdough bread. These white limb slices you call bread are at most suited for jam.
 

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