What kind of motor do you think i need?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around selecting an appropriate motor for an experiment involving the vertical movement of a steel plate under specific constraints, including speed, precision, and space limitations. Participants explore various motor types and mechanisms suitable for achieving the desired motion and control.

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Main Points Raised

  • Abhishek outlines the requirements for moving a steel plate, including a maximum rise of 12mm in 0.5 seconds, the ability to stop at any position between 0-12mm, and the need for speed variation.
  • One participant suggests using a threaded shaft DC motor with a nut as the lifting mechanism, noting its potential for high reduction and compact space requirements, but expresses uncertainty about its speed response.
  • Another participant recommends a linear drive system instead of a power-screw setup, citing concerns about speed and acceleration. They mention the benefits of integrated position feedback and provide links to specific products, along with cost considerations.
  • A later reply mentions the possibility of using stepper motors but raises concerns about circuit design and microcontroller programming experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the best motor choice, with no consensus reached on a single solution. There is uncertainty regarding the effectiveness of suggested mechanisms and the feasibility of implementing them given the constraints.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in experience with certain technologies, such as stepper motors and microcontroller programming, which may affect their ability to implement proposed solutions. Additionally, cost considerations play a significant role in the decision-making process.

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hi,
I'm doing an experiment, in realisation of which i need to move a steel plate up and down. Please consider the following constraints faced by me:

-The plate would rise to 12mm at most.

-The speed should be such that it rises 12mm in around half a second.

-I want to be able to stop the plate anywhere between 0-12mm.

-Variation of the speed may also be needed.

-The plate will be exposed to high pressurefield above, so will tend to come down.

-I have only 75mm(L)*175mm(W)*25mm(H) space to accommodate the lifting mechanism.

-I can also mount the motor outside the above mentioned cavity, but the motor diameter less than 30mm is preferred.

After considering all the above mentioned constraints, I've thought of getting a miniature rack and pinion system manufactured. But the driving motor is still not finalized and I'm facing a problem in it. Initially i thought of using a geared dc motor but then i won't be able to stop it at the precise positions (4mm say). Servos can definitely be used but the speed control is a problem.
Stepper motor seems a good choice but i haven't got much experience working with them.

So, please help me choose a good motor or a new mechanism.

Thank you in anticipation.

Abhishek.
 
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how about using a threaded shaft DC motor(make a small coupling) & a nut as the plate? It sure would give high reduction, space requirement is also isn't much, can be quick. though i don't know how well it would respond to speed requirement.
 
Hi Aviator,

Judging from your speed requirements, 12mm in 0.5sec, which translates into quite a steep acceleration profile, i suspect a power-screw setup will be too slow. I would recommend looking at a linear drive instead. It will be more expensive, but you can get really fast dynamic response as well as integrated position feedback. Check out these sites:

- http://www.faulhaber-group.com/serv...929&sprachid=1&htdigurl=/n428412/i428419.html
- http://www.copleycontrols.com/Motion/Products/Motors/sta.html

I used one of the ones from copley, STA1104 i think, for a project recently instead of building a crank/con.rod system hooked up to a motor. Keep in mind you need to buy the drive electronics as well. For their smallest servoTube i paid about 1000chf + 600chf for the control box. (1chf ~ 0.9USD) But compared to making anything custom this was a bargain. The drive comes with software and you can drive it from your PC or using an oscilloscope. You could also easily integrate it's control into a Labview application if it's part of a bigger experiment.

I would suggest to try and refine your speed, acceleration, load and space/mounting requirements and make a request to both of these companies. I do this all the time when I'm looking for a component, usually get tons of good responses!

Finally, you will need a linear coupling to connect the linear drive to your load. Ask in your request for a recommendation on this as well.

Hope this helps and good luck!
 
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/33711228@N02/3221465139/sizes/o/

this is a possible solution. I don't find a suitable motor.
i think steppers might work, but circuit is the problem. I don't have any exposure of microcontroller programming.

Well, thanks coreyh. Althought the solution you proposed is good, I'm not in a state to afford the same.:frown:
 
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