What Lagrangian mechanics textbook should I use?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around recommendations for textbooks on Lagrangian mechanics suitable for a second-year physics student. Participants share their experiences with various texts and express preferences based on clarity, problem sets, and pedagogical style.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a preference for Landau and Lifshitz volume 1 due to its clear explanations but notes the lack of problems.
  • Another participant mentions Marion or Symon as traditional texts from their experience.
  • Several participants reference Marion & Thornton as a positive introduction to the topic.
  • A suggestion is made for Schaum’s Outline Series as a source of problems, though it is noted to be a supplemental text.
  • Classical Mechanics by John Taylor is recommended for its detailed explanations, though some find it overly wordy.
  • One participant argues that Taylor may not suit someone who appreciates Landau's concise style.
  • Landau & Lifshitz volume 1 is reiterated as a favored text by another participant.
  • A suggestion is made to explore the first three chapters of Classical Dynamics by Donald T. Greenwood.
  • A combination of Taylor and Simon is mentioned as a preferred approach by one participant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the suitability of various textbooks, with no consensus on a single recommended text. Preferences vary based on individual learning styles and experiences with the material.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of problem sets in their learning, while others focus on the clarity of explanations. There is a noted variability in the perceived difficulty of different texts.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for second-year physics students seeking textbook recommendations for Lagrangian mechanics, as well as educators looking for insights into student preferences in learning materials.

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I am currently taking a course on introductory Lagrangian and Hamiltonian mechanics in year 2 in the UK.
I find the material easy but do not have access to a resource with a satisfying amount of problems.
Despite being (in)directly told this resource is not useful at my level, I have Landau and Lifshitz volume 1 and love it as the explanations are brilliantly clear and understandable to me. However, it contains a disappointingly small amount of problems!

Does anyone know a suitable textbook? For a year 2 physics student with lots of problems and worked examples?

I also should add that I do not like Goldstein's approach to the topic as I find his explanations too difficult for me at this stage. His derivation of the Euler-Lagrange equations was shockingly difficult to follow (unlike Landau's intuitive and easy approach)
 
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In my day, there was Marion or Symon.
 
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My introduction to the topic was also Marion & Thornton
 
Schaum’s Outline Series offers down-to-the-point fully answered problems; beware, though, it’s supplemental text only.
 
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As @apostolosdt has said, Schaum's Outline are valuable supplements of problems for standard text.

A text that provides detailed pedagogical explanations of concepts is Classical Mechanics by John Taylor. Some folks liked the detailed explanations; some folks find this text a little too wordy.
 
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If he likes Landau, Taylor is definitely way too wordy.

Landau's One can show" is missing some words. Like "with half a ream of paper and a free afternoon".
 
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Landau & Lifshitz vol. 1!
 
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You can take a look at the first 3 chapters of Classical Dymamics by Donald. T. Greenwoord
 
I liked a combination of Taylor and Simon.
 

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