What Little-Known Physics Phenomenon Fascinates You?

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The discussion centers around lesser-known physics phenomena that participants find fascinating, with a focus on concepts that may not be widely recognized by the general public. The scope includes both commonplace and exotic phenomena, as well as the challenges of communicating these ideas effectively to non-experts.

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  • One participant shares their excitement about Coriolis forces and their role in hurricane formation, relating it to everyday experiences like playing catch on a merry-go-round.
  • Another participant expresses fascination with the physics of mixing, providing a link to an external resource.
  • A different participant highlights their interest in the properties of transparent materials or glass, noting its intriguing nature.
  • One participant mentions single-wire transmission lines, suggesting that even many graduates are unaware of this topic.
  • A participant with a background in experimental sonar engineering discusses bioacoustics, detailing various aspects such as sound production in animals and the application of these principles in military sonar systems.
  • Examples of bioacoustic phenomena are provided, including the inaudible mating calls of peacocks and the echolocation strategies of bats and moths, illustrating the complexity and diversity of animal communication.

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Participants express a range of interests and perspectives on different physics phenomena, but there is no consensus on a single topic or phenomenon that stands out as the most fascinating. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple competing views.

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Some contributions reference external resources and studies, indicating a reliance on specific examples that may not be universally known or understood. The discussion includes a variety of topics, suggesting a broad interpretation of what constitutes "little-known" physics phenomena.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals looking to explore unique physics concepts, educators seeking engaging topics for outreach, and those curious about the intersection of physics and biology through bioacoustics.

  • #31
I forgot to say, that In the book Space by James Michener, the astronauts are warned that this counter-intuitive idea will make rendezvous and docking difficult. Presumably, that is why the astronauts conduct simulations.
 
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  • #32
What's your favorite bit of physics that most laypeople are unaware of? It could be something commonplace that doesn't get the attention it deserves,

The fact that no energy is required to hold something up against gravity. Take the humble fridge magnet. A significant percentage of the population would probably argue that a fridge magnet must use energy and will eventually wear out because in their experience it takes energy to carry shopping or hold a book out at arms length.
 
  • #34
This maybe more about math than science.

In the random walk in two dimensions (drunkards walk), it is certain that the "drunk" returns to his/her starting point given sufficient time. However,

In the random walk in three dimensions (I call it the random robin), the "drunk robin" does not necessarily return (i.e. fly) to his/her starting point (maybe the robin should walk after drinking).
 
  • #35
Filip Larsen said:
I think you misunderstand. A spacecraft is in the same (circular) orbit around the Earth as a space station, but trailing, say, 100 km behind it. As long as neither of the two maneuvers (i.e. changes orbit) the distance between them stays the same. The spacecraft then wants to perform a single impulsive maneuver that will bring it on a new (transfer) orbit that goes right by the station. The surprise for most people now is, that the spacecraft actually has to accelerate away from the station in order enter this transfer orbit. Of course, later, at just the right time when it passes the station, the spacecraft has to make another maneuver (opposite in relative direction of the first maneuver) if it wishes to stay close to the station.

I think I see. However, this only makes sense if the distance between the spacecraft are large enough...such as the 100 km you specified.

Orbital mechanics is weird, because unituitively by decreasing your speed, you enter a new orbit which is actually FASTER than the old one. So, by accelerating away from the space station, the spacecraft ends up falling towards the Earth and actually GAINS speed in the process, in a new orbit which is overall smaller AND faster than that of the space station. Therefore, it will start to catch up to the space station...but it will also be going underneath it until it completes a full orbit.

Is this the general idea? All those hours spent playing Kerbal Space Program were not for nothing :biggrin:!
 
  • #36
Lsos said:
I think I see. However, this only makes sense if the distance between the spacecraft are large enough...such as the 100 km you specified.

The situation is the same even if there is only 10 m to the station. However, when short distances are involved, like in the final phases of docking, it becomes increasingly more viable for the spaceship to make a faster approach using pulsed or continuous thrust instead of just two small maneuvers separated by around 45 minutes of coasting. The fuel expenditure will be greater though.

Lsos said:
Orbital mechanics is weird, because unituitively by decreasing your speed, you enter a new orbit which is actually FASTER than the old one. So, by accelerating away from the space station, the spacecraft ends up falling towards the Earth and actually GAINS speed in the process, in a new orbit which is overall smaller AND faster than that of the space station. Therefore, it will start to catch up to the space station...but it will also be going underneath it until it completes a full orbit.

That is correct.

Lsos said:
Is this the general idea? All those hours spent playing Kerbal Space Program were not for nothing :biggrin:!

One can hope that with a new generation growing up with KSP the old days where people believe Star Wars physics is correct will be gone (or at least put somewhat in doubt) :rolleyes:
 
  • #37
Any day now someone is going to publish a long list of all the errors in the film Gravity :-)
 
  • #38
These are all great. I had never even heard of some of them before.

Another simple one that I think most people never notice is how you can see the difference between phase velocity and group velocity in water ripples. Throw a rock in a lake and you can see that the waves that you watch cross the lake are really made up of smaller ripples that travel from the back of the wave to the front at twice the speed of the overall wave.

It was neat because I read about it a few times before I really had the chance to try it out and almost didn't believe it until I could see it for myself. It's a cool connection between sort of abstract math to a nice bit of physics that you can see with your eyes.

As a side note, Frank Crawford's book on waves from the Berkeley Physics Series is just about my favorite introductory text on anything ever.
 
  • #39
No one has contributed for about a month so I thought I might kick things off. Take a book with a tight rubber band around it so that the pages and cover does not flop open(for example). A rigid rectangular block is better. The Block should have three unequal moments of inertia. (For a homogeneous block, you want length, not equal width, not equal thickness). Throw the block in the air gently at the same time rotating the block around the short axis. The book rotates predictably. Now do the same rotating about the longest axis. Again, the book rotates predictably. Finally repeat, rotating about the intermediate (not long, nor short) axis. This time, the block flops around in the air.

This is called the intermediate axis instability in rigid body force-free motion. This is treated in (e.g. Goldstein Classical Mechanics). This is so puzzling I have seen graduate students try this with Goldstein throwing it in the air when they got to this part.

Actually all three dimensional (space) rigid body motion (e.g, the general motion for the heavy symmetric top), as well as force free motion has puzzling aspects.
 

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