What makes a good electronics textbook?

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The discussion revolves around the quality and effectiveness of electronics textbooks, particularly in the context of an electronics class. Participants share their experiences with various textbooks, express dissatisfaction with certain books, and recommend alternatives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with their current electronics textbook, likening it to low-quality books found in general bookstores.
  • Another participant asks for details about the topics covered in the electronics class.
  • A list of topics covered in the class is provided, including fundamental concepts like Ohm's law, circuit analysis, and various components such as diodes and transistors.
  • Some participants recommend "Electrical Engineering Fundamentals" by Vincent Del Toro as a useful resource for similar courses.
  • There is a humorous exchange about the alternative uses of textbooks, such as for squashing cockroaches or as doorstops.
  • Concerns are raised about the overall quality of engineering books available in bookstores, with some participants noting that many are more qualitative than quantitative.
  • One participant mentions the value of university bookstores and libraries for accessing better quality technical books.
  • Another participant shares their experience of obtaining a library card for research purposes, suggesting it as a way to access better resources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the dissatisfaction with many electronics textbooks, but multiple competing views remain regarding specific recommendations and the quality of available resources.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the limitations of general bookstores in providing quality technical literature and express a desire for better access to specialized resources.

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My electronic class is almost over, <thank god>. Unfortunately, I have what I call a "barnes n' noble" book. You know when you walk into barnes n noble and you go to the science section and you see a bunch of math/physics/engineering books. You always pick one up to see what's inside, but you know even before you open it that its going to be crap. My electronics book is like that, :mad:.

http://www.moviemars.com/images/books/0131470469.jpg

can we say junkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk?
 
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cyrus, what topics does your electronic class cover?
 
  • Introduction, Charge, current, voltage, Ohm’s law, KCL, KVL
  • Power & Energy, resistances series and parallel
  • Sources, single loop and node circuits, voltage and current divider principles, node-voltage analysis
  • Mesh current analysis
  • Thevenin and Norton Theorems, impedance matching (maximum power transfer)
  • Superposition principle, Wheatstone bridge
  • Exam I (Monday, 3/6/06) Energy storage elements: capacitors & inductors
  • First-order networks, transients
  • SPRING BREAK
  • Second-order networks
  • Sinusoidal sources, complex numbers, Phasors, complex impedance, AC analysis
  • Diodes
  • Transistors, MOSFET
  • Exam II (Wednesday, 4/26/06)
  • Operational amplifiers
  • Operational amplifiers, cont’d
  • Final Exam, Saturday 5/13/06 10:30am-12:30pm

I have to take part II next semester. :frown:

(You never sent me that email sid)
 
cyrusabdollahi said:
  • Introduction, Charge, current, voltage, Ohm’s law, KCL, KVL
  • Power & Energy, resistances series and parallel
  • Sources, single loop and node circuits, voltage and current divider principles, node-voltage analysis
  • Mesh current analysis
  • Thevenin and Norton Theorems, impedance matching (maximum power transfer)
  • Superposition principle, Wheatstone bridge
  • Exam I (Monday, 3/6/06) Energy storage elements: capacitors & inductors
  • First-order networks, transients
  • SPRING BREAK
  • Second-order networks
  • Sinusoidal sources, complex numbers, Phasors, complex impedance, AC analysis
  • Diodes
  • Transistors, MOSFET
  • Exam II (Wednesday, 4/26/06)
  • Operational amplifiers
  • Operational amplifiers, cont’d
  • Final Exam, Saturday 5/13/06 10:30am-12:30pm

I have to take part II next semester. :frown:

(You never sent me that email sid)

Its ok, I hate electronics too. My electronics class is what convinced me I want nothing to do with experimental work.
 
Then, I recommened Electrical Engineering Fundamentals by Vincent Del Toro. I found it really useful for a similar course last semester.

Oh, and I'll send the email. I just have scan or type it first.
 
Interesting front cover. So what are the applications of EE, for playing american football?
 
siddharth said:
Then, I recommened Electrical Engineering Fundamentals by Vincent Del Toro. I found it really useful for a similar course last semester.

Oh, and I'll send the email. I just have scan or type it first.


:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: yeahhhhhhhhhhh, read EE in my spare time :smile: :smile: you're funny sid. :biggrin:
 
I just noticed the title of this thread. In my experience, it is far less cost-effective to burn textbooks for heating, than to use them for squashing cockroaches. Also, doorstops, and as counterweights for various machinery.
 
Rach3 said:
I just noticed the title of this thread. In my experience, it is far less cost-effective to burn textbooks for heating, than to use them for squashing cockroaches. Also, doorstops, and as counterweights for various machinery.

Don't forget double duty as dumbbells. Who says nerds have to be skinny ?
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: yeahhhhhhhhhhh, read EE in my spare time :smile: :smile: you're funny sid. :biggrin:

I was only trying to help :blushing:

You could also try selling it second-hand.
 
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I thought I was the only one who had that experience when looking at most of the "engineering" books at Borders and B&N. I think the only thing I like about my local Borders is that they tend to stock a lot of the Dover books which are usually very inexpensive and pretty comprehensive.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
yeahhhhhhhhhhh, read EE in my spare time
Or keep Vincent Del Toro's book as a reference. You never know when you might need it. :biggrin:

Hambley's book is published by the same company, Prentice Hall. It would appear that Hambley's book replaced Del Toro's as the main one.

Del Toro's book is available from Amazon at low prices (used).

I think Siddharth's offer was quite decent.

Best wishes on your finals, Cyrus! :smile:
 
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FredGarvin said:
I thought I was the only one who had that experience when looking at most of the "engineering" books at Borders and B&N. I think the only thing I like about my local Borders is that they tend to stock a lot of the Dover books which are usually very inexpensive and pretty comprehensive.
Dover is the only reason I would go to Borders books.

I think the quality of many so-called 'science or technical' books is rather mediocre. Mostly they are pop science or more qualitative than quantitative.

Actually bookstore's at Universities, which have strong science or engineering programs, generally have a good selection - especially Springer Verlag's Yellow books. I really miss the access to a good technical library and bookstore. :frown:
 
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Astro, have you thought about trying the approach that I used? Our local university and the technical college both have a policy of giving free library cards to professional writers for research purposes. I was one at the time, but the point is that they never even asked for any credentials. You can legitimately call yourself a pro writer based upon the papers you write (or have written, if you don't do that any more).
 
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I do go up to RPI's Library on occasion, but that is slightly more than 90 minutes away. I used to be about 15 minutes by bicycle back in grad school. Well, I miss university too. Maybe some day I'll go back and teach.

I still publish, but most of my work is proprietary or otherwise sensitive, so it gets distributed only to those who need to know. :cool:
 
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siddharth said:
I was only trying to help :blushing:

:cool:

Apparently some people just don't appreciate the finer subjects.
 

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