What makes physics feel like magic?

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The discussion centers on the perception of physics, particularly quantum mechanics, as a realm that resembles magic due to its counterintuitive nature and the complexities of the microworld. Participants debate the distinction between science and philosophy, arguing that testable theories should be classified as science, while others assert that quantum theory (QT) remains philosophical due to its inability to provide complete explanations for observed phenomena. The conversation highlights the challenges in understanding fundamental particles and their properties, with references to notable physicists like Stephen Hawking and Richard Morris, who question the completeness of current quantum theories. The dialogue also touches on the philosophical implications of scientific theories, the nature of measurement in physics, and the ongoing quest for deeper understanding in the field. Participants express differing views on the classification of QT, the interpretation of quantum phenomena, and the role of hypothetical models in scientific discourse, ultimately reflecting a broader inquiry into the nature of reality and the limits of human knowledge.
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Being a little bit of a Hawking fan and someone who has read the book a number of times, I feel compelled to defend him here: elas has not provided a quote and admitted he's added his own interpretations. I'm don't feel compelled to accept that interpretation at face value. It'd surprise me greatly if Hawking said, or even implied, that QT is not science. Do you have a quote, elas (I'll attempt to find one tonight)?

Further, none of the quotes from other sources that elas did post support his position. He's implying his own spin and interpreting them differently than a scientist would.
 
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Have just recovered from several days of ISP problems. Will give considered reply as soon as possible. Have revised introduction to webpage; Table explanation will be revised next. Delighted to see debate continues.
 

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