What Makes The Physical World an Excellent Book on Fundamental Physics?

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The discussion revolves around the book "The Physical World: An Inspirational Tour of Fundamental Physics" by Manton and Mee, exploring its content, technicality, and comparisons to other physics texts. Participants share their initial impressions, suggest similar books, and discuss specific claims made within the text.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express enthusiasm for "The Physical World," noting its derivation from first principles and clarity.
  • Others compare it to Penrose's "Road to Reality," with mixed feelings about the accessibility of both texts.
  • A participant points out a correction in the book regarding Bell's theorem, suggesting a misstatement about hidden variables theories.
  • Several participants mention other books, such as "A Unified Grand Tour of Theoretical Physics" and "Modern Classical Physics," indicating a search for complementary resources.
  • There are inquiries about specific chapters, particularly on Quantum Mechanics and Thermodynamics, reflecting curiosity about the book's depth.
  • One participant suggests that while the book is excellent, it may not be suitable for beginners, indicating a need for prior knowledge.
  • Another participant mentions a complementary book, "Physics - A Student Companion," suggesting it pairs well with Manton and Mee's work.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express positive views about "The Physical World," but there is no consensus on its suitability for beginners, and some disagreements exist regarding specific claims made in the book.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions reference the technical nature of the texts and the varying levels of reader familiarity with physics concepts, which may influence their interpretations and experiences with the books.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in fundamental physics, particularly those looking for technical resources or complementary texts for deeper understanding.

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I am still on the first chapter but loving it so far.
The Physical World: An Inspirational Tour of Fundamental Physics by Manton and Mee
You can see a preview on amazon. Ignore the 1 star review - "too technical for me". I do not think the person reviewing it was the audience for this book. Yes it is technical (which is why I like it even more). But, everything in the book is derived from the first principles and steps are not skipped. Excellent and easy to follow. This is the book Susskind's books should have been.

I wish there were more books like this.
 
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He reminds me by Penrose book Road To Reality, I'll buy it since I need book similar to this!
 
Moayd Shagaf said:
He reminds me by Penrose book Road To Reality, I'll buy it since I need book similar to this!
Road to Reality becomes terribly hard to read after the first few chapters. Hopefully, it is not going to turn out like that :)
 
The book by Manton and Me is great, but I found one wrong statement in it. On page 519 they say:
"John Bell showed that the EPR thought experiment implies that if quantum mechanics
is correct then there are correlations between measurements that cannot be explained by
any hidden variables theory."
That's wrong. The correct statement should have "any local" instead of "any". Fortunately, they make it correct at page 523.
 
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I am still on the first chapter but loving it so far.
The Physical World: An Inspirational Tour of Fundamental Physics by Manton and Mee
You can see a preview on amazon. Ignore the 1 star review - "too technical for me". I do not think the person reviewing it was the audience for this book. Yes it is technical (which is why I like it even more). But, everything in the book is derived from the first principles and steps are not skipped. Excellent and easy to follow. This is the book Susskind's books should have been.

I wish there were more books like this.

I am not judging but the title is a bit put off.

Did you read other chapters ? Especially the ones on Quantum Mechanics and Thermodynamics, how are they ?
 
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Buffu said:
I am not judging but the title is a bit put off.

Did you read other chapters ? Especially the ones on Quantum Mechanics and Thermodynamics, how are they ?
Still on the first chapter :)
 
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smodak said:
Still on the first chapter :)

Hi. Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but by now you have probably read the book, or at least read a lot more of it. What do you think of the book?
 
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FourEyedRaven said:
Hi. Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but by now you have probably read the book, or at least read a lot more of it. What do you think of the book?
Iirc it was pretty good but may not be for a first read. Good overview if you know a bit of the subject. Won't recommend for a beginner.
 
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The book looks excellent. For now I am just a tourist in physics and that book seems just about perfect for my own purposes.

Another great book, which corresponds roughly to the first 3 years of undergraduate physics, is "Physics - A Student Companion", by Lowry Kirkby.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1904842682/?tag=pfamazon01-20

These two books seem to complement each other very well to give an abbreviated exposition of most of theoretical physics. Thank you for the suggestion.
 
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