What methods are used to model/predict fission reactions?

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The discussion centers on the methods used to model and predict fission reactions, particularly in the context of nuclear reactors and weapons. Participants explore the applicability of quantum electrodynamics, special relativity, and classical laws of conservation in these models.

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  • One participant questions whether quantum electrodynamics or special relativity is used in modeling fission reactions, and whether classical conservation laws still apply.
  • Another participant asserts that quantum field theory, quantum electrodynamics, and quantum chromodynamics are not used in predicting fission reactions, instead highlighting the use of neutron diffusion or transport theory.
  • It is noted that cross-sections for neutron reactions are determined experimentally and are essential for modeling fission processes.
  • Microscopic cross-sections are developed into macroscopic cross-sections for use in lattice codes, which help determine fission rates and thermal power distributions in reactors.
  • A participant mentions the use of Monte Carlo codes for simulating neutronic behavior, emphasizing their advantages and limitations, including statistical errors and high computational demands.
  • There is a reiteration that all nuclear events in these codes rely on experimentally derived cross-sections, with no nuclear theory applied in the codes themselves.

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Participants express differing views on the relevance of quantum theories to fission modeling, with some asserting that classical methods and experimental data are sufficient. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the role of advanced theoretical frameworks in this context.

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Limitations include the dependence on experimental data for cross-sections and the lack of consensus on the applicability of quantum theories to fission reaction modeling.

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This is a stupid question, but it has always been a question of mine that I have never been able to find a strait answer. To be more specific, is quantum electrodynamics or special relativity used to model or predict fission reactions such as those found in a nuclear explosion or inside a nuclear reactor? Do the classical laws of conservation of mass and energy still apply or only conservation of mass/energy?
 
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In brief QFT/QED/QCD are not used in the prediction or modelling of fission reactions in reactors or weapons. Rather, special solutions of either neutron diffusion or transport theory are used.

The cross-sections (probabilities of a neutron reaction) are known from experiment. The cross sections are based on the attenuation measurements of neutron beams and the measurement of resulting reactions, which include scattering, absorption (with gamma emission), and absorption (with fission).

For nuclear fuel and reactors, the microscopic cross-sections are developed into macroscopic cross-sections which are used in so-called lattice codes, like PHOENIX or CASMO, or a proprietary code used by one of the reactor suppliers. The lattice codes then determined the relative power level of a cross-seciton of the fuel assembly as a function of burnup (exposure/depletion), and these results are used in core simulator to determine the fission rate and more particularly the thermal power distribution during operation of a reactor.

Most commercial fuel suppliers use a modified 2-group diffusion theory.

Nuclear weapons are quite different the commerical reactors, and they use very specialized codes the model the physics of those systems.
 
Thanks for the reply Astronuc. Very informative.
 
I could add that one uses also a lot Monte Carlo codes to simulate neutronic behaviour. They have the advantage of not having computer time to depend strongly on the complexity of the situation, and not needing many a priori assumptions about the behaviour of the solution. On the other hand, they have statistical errors, and they are CPU hogs.

But as Astro said, all nuclear happenings in all these codes are based upon experimentally derived cross sections. No nuclear theory is used in any of these codes. The experimental cross sections are freely available and can be found on the website of the NNDC for instance.
 

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