What mistake did Mindy make when solving this quadratic equation?

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The discussion revolves around a quadratic equation problem where Mindy incorrectly concludes that there is only one solution after solving (x+4)(x-3)=8. The participants explore the implications of her mistake and the underlying mathematical principles related to fields and integral domains.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss Mindy's approach of setting factors equal to a constant and question her understanding of the zero product property. There is also consideration of the implications of zero divisors in fields and integral domains.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of Mindy's misunderstanding, with some participants suggesting that her mistake relates to the properties of fields. Multiple interpretations of her error are being examined, and while some clarity is emerging, there is no explicit consensus on the exact nature of her misunderstanding.

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Participants note that Mindy's process is flawed and that there may be confusion regarding the correct application of the zero product rule. There is also mention of potential errors in the problem statement itself, which could contribute to the confusion.

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Homework Statement


Mindy solves the problem (x+4)(x-3)=8 by setting x+4=8 and x-3=8, thereby getting the solutin x=4 from both equations. she checks her answer by substituting x=4 into the original equation and finds that it works. She concludes that this quadratic equation has only one solution. if we check x=-5, it also works. she lost a solution. WHAT MISTAKE DID MINDY MAKE? WHAT MIGHT SHE NOT UNDERSTAND? WHAT PROPERTY OF FIELDS/INTEGRAL DOMAINS IS MINDY'S MISTAKE RELATED TO?


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If she were to first FOIL, subtract 8 from both sides, and solve for x, then she would get both solutions. BUT, i am stuck in explaining what she might not understand and what fields/integral domains is her mistake related to...
 
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I'm thinking that this has to do with Zero Divisors. Specifically the nonexistence of them. Does that help?
 
that makes sense as far as explaining her misunderstanding...but what about the property of fields/integral domains that her mistake is related to?
 
Mindy is assuming "if ab= c then a= c or b= c" which is not true. It is a mistaken version of the "zero product" rule that says "if ab= 0 then a= 0 or b= 0". That, in turn is true because if [itex]a\ne 0[/itex] we can divide by it getting b= 0 and the reverse. That is where "no zero divisors" in a field is applied and where Mindy's mistake is. "No zero divisors" does NOT mean "no c divisors" for c non-zero.
 
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Homework Statement


Mindy solves the problem (x+4)(x-3)=8 by setting x+4=8 and x-3=8, thereby getting the solutin x=4 from both equations.

Um, you don't get x=4 from both equations. If x-3=8, x=11, not 4.
 
ideasrule said:
Um, you don't get x=4 from both equations. If x-3=8, x=11, not 4.
Yeah, but by this time Mindy is so lost, it doesn't matter!
 
you are correct that she "should" get 4 and 11 but i guess it doesn't matter since her process and reasoning is incorrect. unless the professor made a mistake in typing this question...thank you both for your input.
 

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