What position does lonepair of electron takes?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the positions of lone pairs of electrons in molecular geometries, specifically comparing the arrangements in SCl4 and IF5. Participants explore the implications of these arrangements on molecular shape and coordination geometry, touching on concepts related to octahedral structures.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that in SCl4, the lone pair occupies an equatorial position, while in IF5, it occupies an axial position, questioning why this difference exists.
  • Another participant describes IF5 as having a pseudo-octahedral geometry and seeks clarification on distinguishing between axial and equatorial positions in an octahedron.
  • A third participant admits to a lack of knowledge regarding the distinction between axial and equatorial positions, having only studied molecular shapes up to octahedral.
  • Another participant argues that five fluoride ligands cannot occupy all six corners of an octahedron, suggesting that the lone pair occupies the sixth corner, leading to the characterization of the geometry as pseudo-octahedral. They also assert that all corners of an octahedron are equivalent, implying no inherent difference between axial and equatorial positions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of axial and equatorial positions, with some suggesting equivalence while others imply a distinction based on molecular geometry. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the reasons behind the differing positions of lone pairs in SCl4 and IF5.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in understanding the definitions of axial and equatorial positions, as well as the implications of pseudo-octahedral geometry. Some assumptions about molecular shapes and coordination may not be fully articulated.

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In molecules like SCl4 lone pair occupy equitorial position.But, in IF5 lone pair occupy axial position.Why can't the lone pair in SCl4 occupy axial position?
 
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IF5 has a pseudo-octahedral geometry. Can you tell me how to distinguish between axial and equatorial positions in an octahedron?
 
Don't know.I have studied molecular shapes up to octahedral.so excuse me.
 
Five fluoride ligands can't occupy all the six corners of an octahedron, hence the coordination geometry can't be octahedral. But if we take the lone pair into account, it occupies the sixth corner of the octahedron. Therefore we speak of a pseudo-octahedral geometry.
I wanted to say that all the six corners in an octahedron are equivalent, so there is no difference between axial and equatorial.
 

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