What problems should be chosen for a physics course?

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The discussion revolves around the selection of problems in physics courses, questioning the criteria and rationale behind the choices made by lecturers. It explores the implications of these selections for student learning and the relevance of problems to future applications in professional settings.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that lecturers select problems based on their personal opinions and familiarity with the material, which may not necessarily align with what is most useful for students in their future careers.
  • Others argue that while the syllabus may be uniform across sections, the choice of problems can reflect a lecturer's experience and pedagogical approach, potentially enhancing the learning experience.
  • A participant questions the assumption that problems relevant to future careers are unchanging, citing the evolution of topics in the field that may not have been present during their education.
  • Another participant notes that the problems assigned in university courses tend to be similar across institutions, emphasizing that the focus is on learning the discipline rather than direct job training.
  • There is a suggestion that the selection of problems is also influenced by the need for students to cover specific topics by the end of the term.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of problem selection based on personal opinion versus the necessity of preparing students for future applications. There is no consensus on whether the problems chosen are adequately aligned with real-world applications or if they are overly subjective.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the potential limitations of relying on a lecturer's opinion for problem selection, suggesting that this may not always reflect the most relevant or useful problems for students' future careers.

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Hi,

I want to ask this question.

Why do lecturers select the problems they select in the problem sets? I don't understand why those problems have to be selected and not any others.
 
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Your question may be very different than your post's title. The exercise questions which a professor (or lecturer) might ask could depend on what he decides to ask according to his opinion while the syllabus might be the same for all sections of the course at the school.

Specifically about your question, a book's section could have several exercises. The lecturer may want to solve the problems himself and have a detailed solution key of his own, according to his own work. This means that he will know the exercises and their solutions better than those he did not recently solve. Also, he may have picked some representative exercises to help with practice for the topics being taught. This still should not restrict the student from doing more exercises than are assigned.
 
symbolipoint said:
Your question may be very different than your post's title.

I am sorry for putting a misleading title on the thread.

symbolipoint said:
The exercise questions which a professor (or lecturer) might ask could depend on what he decides to ask according to his opinion

Why are the problems set according to the opinion of the lecturer? I believe that the goal of a university degree is to help you understand the physical theories and solve routine problems (those which turn out to be needed in professional work in the academia). Am I right on this? If I'm right and the professor is setting questions according to his opinion, then he could set problems on anything, even problems which have practically no use in later life. My problem is with the word "opinion". Opinion vary, but the problems needed for use in later life are surely unchanging.

symbolipoint said:
while the syllabus might be the same for all sections of the course at the school.

I don't understand this.

symbolipoint said:
Also, he may have picked some representative exercises to help with practice for the topics being taught.

Is this not the same as the previous reason?
 
failexam said:
but the problems needed for use in later life are surely unchanging.

What on Earth would make you think that?

I spend most of my day working on topics that didn't even exist when I was in school.
 
The question here reminds me of the kids in class who ask, "When are we ever going to use this?" It is a little more frequent in high school and below, rather than at the university level and above.

If you look at most first year university courses - specifically in physics (but it applies to math, engineering, and chemistry as well) - you'll likely find that the problems don't actually vary that much from school to school. Some professors will try to get a little more creative and some will just assign problems from the chapters in the text, but because the key concepts are similar, so are the problems. In fact so are the textbooks.

In university, you have to keep in mind that you're learning an academic discipline. Job training, or direct applications specific to given professions - is something that comes at the community college level. When you come out of school with a degree in physics there are certain problems that you would be expected to be able to solve, at least if you're going on to graduate school, so if you look at the programs across a range of schools, they don't really vary that much.

What you're paying the big bucks for at the university level, is to be taught the discipline from someone who is at the leading edge of it. This person's opinion is based on his or her experience in getting to that leading edge and should be quite valuable. But even then, when assigning problems, the decision is largely based on needing the students to have covered specific topics by the end of the term.
 

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