What role should ideologies play in scientific research/studies

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The discussion centers on the influence of ideologies in scientific research, with participants largely arguing that ideologies should not play a role in science, as they can introduce bias and restrict open-mindedness. Some acknowledge that while science should inform political positions, ideologies often shape research funding and focus, potentially skewing scientific inquiry. Historical examples, such as the misuse of science to support extreme ideologies, highlight the dangers of ideological influence. However, others argue that ideologies are inherent in the scientific process, as they guide priorities and methodologies. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the need for scientists to recognize their biases and strive for objectivity in their work.
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jack action said:
What I don't like about the affirmations you make is how strong they are, especially about the word "truth" that you throw around a lot and that anyone not agreeing with you doesn't deserve any respect. It sounds a lot like the speeches you dislike.

Where did I say anything about people disagreeing with me not deserving respect?
 
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dkotschessaa said:
Where did I say anything about people disagreeing with me not deserving respect?
My sentence is badly formulated and I know it is not what you meant, but it is the feeling I get from what you were saying. It really sounds like those religious people that say "If you don't refer to the Good Book, you're not worth my time." Which is a strong statement that have for only objective to shut up the other person. And I'm sure it is not your intent, but that's how it sounds on my end.

To me, science is about open minds and freedom to say anything, even stupid stuff (You know, like "There are no stupid questions"). If something is so ridiculous, coming from someone who likes to hear himself talk, you just state your argument and be done with it. Let the people decide what they think is best for them. And if you claim you're holding the truth, you sounds just like the other guy.

If you start labeling "good" from "bad", then you have just given an argument to those people who will use it against you (You are the "bad" one, they're the "good" ones) which just leads to useless circular argumentation.
 
  • #53
The OP has not returned to PF since he started the thread, looks like we might have scared him away. I think we've kind of beaten this topic to death. If the OP does return, he has three pages of arguments to pick from. :smile: Thread closed.
 
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