What shape has the largest area for a fixed perimeter?

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The discussion centers on the isoperimetric problem, specifically identifying that the circle maximizes area for a fixed perimeter, while the sphere maximizes volume for a fixed surface area. The participant mentions the use of calculus of variations to prove these concepts and expresses interest in intuitive proofs that do not rely on advanced calculus. The limit relation presented, \lim_{n\rightarrow \infty}{\frac{\cot{(\pi /n)}}{4n}} = \pi, is also noted as part of the exploration of these geometric properties.

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Hello everyone.

While I was waiting for my computer program to run, I occupied myself with this little problem. For a fixed perimeter, which regular polygon (or any closed shape in the plane) has the largest area? The answer is the circle (I guess), if we regard it as an infinite-sided polygon. But how does one prove this? Are there any simple proofs? Any intuitive proofs?
Obviously then one could look at closed surfaces in R^3, and see which has the largest volume for a fixed surface area, which should be the sphere.
Any thoughts?

Btw, I got this odd relation while trying to work out this problem:
\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty}{\frac{\cot{(\pi /n)}}{4n}} = \pi
lol.
 
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These are called isoperimetric problems, and are dealt with using calculus of variations.

And yes, you have identified the correct shapes that maximize the area/volume for a given perimeter/surface.
 
Thanks, I googled "isoperimteric" and got some sites which gave intuitive proofs, that don't use calculus of variations, which is what I wanted.
 

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