What Speed Should Jane Walk to Match John's Arrival Time?

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The problem involves two individuals, John and Jane, where John walks a specific path and speed, and the question is to determine the speed at which Jane must walk in a straight line to arrive at the same endpoint as John simultaneously. The subject area includes concepts of displacement, velocity, and time in the context of kinematics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between displacement and speed, questioning how to calculate Jane's required speed based on John's walking speed and time. There are attempts to clarify the distance Jane needs to cover and the time available for her to reach the endpoint.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with various attempts to calculate Jane's speed. Some participants have offered guidance on using the known displacement and time to find the solution. There are multiple interpretations of the problem setup, and participants are exploring different approaches to arrive at Jane's speed.

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There are mentions of potential confusion regarding unit conversions and the relationship between distance, velocity, and time. Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the correct application of formulas.

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Homework Statement



John walks 1.60 north, then turns right and walks 1.40 east. His speed is 1.80 during the entire stroll.

If Jane starts at the same time and place as John, but walks in a straight line to the endpoint of John's stroll, at what speed should she walk if she wants to arrive at the endpoint just when John does?


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The Attempt at a Solution


(((I figure out that the displacement is 2.13km. But I can't figure out how fast Jane needs to walk. I tried .9 but that's not the answer. My idea was that if you just divided John's time by half that would be the answer))))
 
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behnz06 said:
My idea was that if you just divided John's time by half that would be the answer
Why by half?

What distance does she have to cover? How much time does she have to cover it? Calculate her speed.
 
Well since you have John's displacement, it's going to be the same a Jane's, so you know that.

Then you also know that time has to be the same.

So solve for velocity :smile:
 
Doc Al said:
Why by half?

What distance does she have to cover? How much time does she have to cover it? Calculate her speed.

My thought process was that the triangle I made (using the 2 sides plus the displacement that I solved) could be seen as a square.lol. Thus, instead of going all around from ABC. AC would be a shortcut. I'm not quite sure if I was able to explain this clearly.
 
behnz06 said:
My thought process was that the triangle I made (using the 2 sides plus the displacement that I solved) could be seen as a square.lol. Thus, instead of going all around from ABC. AC would be a shortcut. I'm not quite sure if I was able to explain this clearly.

it's not a square because John walks 1.60 km north and 1.40 km east. Those are different lengths of the sides, so it's not a square. but you still get a triangle when you put the two paths together haha.
 
By the way its 1.6 km and 1.4 km. And he moves at the rate of 1.8 m/s
 
I know it's not a square. But i believed it was a right angle. thus if I added a triangle just like that t would be a square
 
well jane will be walking in a straight line, no?
so all you have to do is solve. you have the displacement and the time. :smile:
 
I don't know how to do that lol. would I set the problem up like 2.13km=1.8m/s over 3km?
 
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Okay now i just tried converting 1.8miles pers second to km/s. Got 1800km/s and did 2.13 over 1800 km and got 1.18km/s
 
  • #11
I mean 1.18 m per second
 
  • #12
well what equations are there that involve distance, velocity, and time?
 
  • #13
behnz06 said:
Okay now i just tried converting 1.8miles pers second to km/s. Got 1800km/s and did 2.13 over 1800 km and got 1.18km/s

don't worry about converting things like that, it'll just confuse you tons more haha. :wink:
 
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v=d/t
 
  • #15
V= 2.13km/1.8mpersecond = 1.2 (wrong answer)
 
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behnz06 said:
V= 2.13km/1.8mpersecond = 1.2 (wrong answer)

1.8 m/s isn't a time, it's a rate. we're solving for a rate. that's John's rate, we don't want that. We want Jane's rate. So using the time and distance, what answer do you get?
 
  • #17
I don't know. I got the problem wrong too many times. It says that the answer is 1.28m/s. I don't understand how they got it.
 
  • #18
What did you get for Jane's time? What did you get for Jane's displacement? Divide the second by the first.

EDIT: you got the right value for the displacement. You just need her time, which is the same as John's time. Find it and you're done.
 
  • #19
The answer is 1.27 m/s to reach distance (C) from starting point (A). You have most of the equation, just solve for distance over time.
 
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