What Static Load Should a Linear Actuator Handle for a 5kg Object?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on determining the appropriate static load a linear actuator should handle for a 5kg object when held vertically. Participants explore the implications of weight measurement, unit conversions, and the role of gravity in these calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the static load requirements for a linear actuator to hold a 5kg object, questioning the conversion of weight from kilograms to other units like pounds and Newtons.
  • Another participant suggests using Google for unit conversions, indicating that the conversion process is straightforward.
  • A participant expresses confusion about whether electric scales account for gravity when measuring weight in kilograms, questioning how this affects the static load ratings provided by manufacturers.
  • One participant asserts that electric scales measure grams of force due to gravity, explaining that weight readings would differ on different celestial bodies, while mass remains constant.
  • There is a query about the equivalence of "lbs" and "pound," with participants confirming that they refer to the same unit of measurement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions of weight and mass, but there remains uncertainty regarding the specifics of how manufacturers define static load and whether gravity is considered in their ratings. The discussion does not reach a consensus on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations in understanding how weight is measured and converted, as well as the implications of gravity on those measurements. There is also ambiguity regarding the definitions and usage of units like pounds and kilograms in different contexts.

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Hello, I measured an object using an electric scale. It is 5kg. I want to select a linear actuator such that when placed vertically, it can keep the object on hold at a fixed height. In this case, what static load (in lbs and Netwon) should the actuator be capable of handling? I am confused by different units listed by different manufacturers. Thanks.
 
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Use Google. If you enter: convert 5kg it will show hints for what to convert it to (pounds, grams, Newtons, stones)
 
I know how to do conversion using google. The confusion I have is whether the manufacturers and the electric scale take gravity into consideration when showing the numbers. For example:

When I measured the weight of the object using a scale, it reads 5kg. So, in Newton, it is 5kg*9.81m/s2 ~= 50N. However, objects are under gravity. So, the electric scale measured the object under gravity. Shouldn't that 5kg has already included an increased scale factor of 9.81? Does the electric scale takes gravity into consideration when showing weight in kg?

When manufacturers state the static load, I am not sure if they have taken gravity into consideration. For example, if the stated static load of a motor is 100N, does that mean it can hold an object of about 10kg? Similarly, if a company states that their motor has a static load of 500 lbs, does that mean it can hold an object of about 227kg. (If the object is put on an electric scale, it gives 227kg?) 227kg is the value given by a calculator I found using google. Seem to be too large.
 
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Does the electric scale takes gravity into consideration when showing weight in kg?
Yes. Electric (or electronic) scales are glorified spring scales, you are measuring Grams of Force (due to gravity). If you take that scale and 5kg weight to the Moon, the scale will read about 0.83kg. That's because gravity on the Moon is about 1/6 of Earths gravity. If you want to measure Mass, you use a Balance and put the unknown mass in one pan and put various known masses in the other until the scale "balances." Then you will get the same readings whether you are on Earth, the Moon or Jupiter.

Addendum: The classical way of measuring mass is to find the force required (in Newtons) to accelerate the mass at 1 meter per second, per second. The answer is the mass in kilograms. That works anywhere, on any planet or even in space. (because that is the definition of a Newton)

So just keep things sorted out in your mind: Weight is grams, pounds, stones, etc, of force on an object due to gravity; Mass is measured by how much force it takes to accelerate that object to 1m/S2.

Enjoy!
Tom
 
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Thanks Tom. Sometimes manufactures use lbs as the unit of the static load. For most google unit conversions , they use pounds. Are they the same thing? In other words, is 1 lbs = 1 pound? lbs does not sound like an abbreviation of pound.
 
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Are they the same thing? In other words, is 1 lbs = 1 pound?
Yes, the same, isn't English weird?
According to wikipedia, lb is from the ancient Roman libra, from the Hellenic system, which was built on the Egyptians, who were influenced by the Mesopotamians!

Here is the link to wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(mass)
 

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