What Steps Can Resolve This Second-Order Differential Equation?

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order differential equation of the form X'' = 0.5*x^-2 with initial conditions provided. Participants are exploring various methods to approach the problem, including integration and separation of variables.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss attempts to separate variables and integrate the equation, with some expressing confusion about the validity of their methods. There is mention of using the variation of parameters method and questioning the implications of the exponent in the equation.

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Several participants have provided different approaches to the problem, including integration techniques and considerations of the equation's structure. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct method to apply, with no clear consensus reached yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of initial conditions at t=0, where x'=0 and x=10. There is also a recognition of potential misunderstandings regarding the treatment of second derivatives.

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Homework Statement


Solve the differential equation...
X'' = .5*x^-2
taken with respect to t
at t=0, x'=0 and x=10

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The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to split the variables (ie d^2 X * X^2 = .5 dt^2) but didn't get the right answer with this (i plugged it bak in and it didn't work?)
How should I start this problem?
 
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Show your computations.
 
d^2 X * X^2 = .5 dt^2
integrate both sides...
dx * x^3/3=(.5*t + C) *dt
at t=0, dx/dt=0 and x=10...
0*10^3/3 = .5*0 + C
C=0

dx * x^3/3 = .5*t*dt
integrate both sides again...
x^4 / 12 = .25*t^2 + C
same refs...
10^4/12 = .25*0 +C
C = 833.3

x^4/12 = .25*t^2 + 833.3

algebra...

x= (3*t^2 + 10000)^(1/4)

but that doesn't work...
 
Do you know the variation of parameters method? That might work.
 
I didn't think that would work because I thought the exponent on the x term would have to be 1, while in this case its -2...
 
Just integrate (1/2)x^(-2) twice. Don't forget to keep the constants of integration around.
 
so...
integrating once...
x'=.0345*x^-2*t

then again...
x=.0345/2*x^-2*t^2+C\
?
 
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PennyGirl said:
so...
integrating once...
x'=.0345*x^-2*t

then again...
x=.0345/2*x^-2*t^2+C\
?

No, you aren't missing anything. I am. I didn't notice t was the independent variable.
 
PennyGirl said:
d^2 X * X^2 = .5 dt^2
integrate both sides...
NO. You cannot separate a second derivative like this. A second derivative cannot be treated like a fraction.

Your original equation can be written as x^2d^2x/dt^2= 1/2[/math]. Let y= dx/dt. Then, by the chain rule, d^2x/dt= dy/dt= (dy/dx)(dx/dt)= y dy/dx. Your equation becomes y dy/dx= (1/2)x<sup>-2</sup>. Since that is now a first derivative, it <b>can</b> be treated like a fraction and separated: ydy= (1/2)x<sup>-2</sup>dx. Integrate that to find y, as a function of x, and then integrate dx/dt= y to find x.` Since you know that x(0)= 10 and x'(0)= 0, you know that y= 0 when x= 10 so can find the first constant of integration before the second integral.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> dx * x^3/3=(.5*t + C) *dt<br /> at t=0, dx/dt=0 and x=10...<br /> 0*10^3/3 = .5*0 + C<br /> C=0<br /> <br /> dx * x^3/3 = .5*t*dt<br /> integrate both sides again...<br /> x^4 / 12 = .25*t^2 + C<br /> same refs...<br /> 10^4/12 = .25*0 +C<br /> C = 833.3<br /> <br /> x^4/12 = .25*t^2 + 833.3<br /> <br /> algebra...<br /> <br /> x= (3*t^2 + 10000)^(1/4)<br /> <br /> but that doesn't work... </div> </div> </blockquote>
 

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