What Substitution Solves This Integral?

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The discussion revolves around solving an integral using substitution methods. Participants are exploring the challenges posed by the integral's structure, particularly the presence of a term in the numerator that complicates the application of known forms like arctan.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss attempts to convert the integral into a form suitable for arctan, questioning the impact of the numerator's degree. There are requests for clarification on specific substitutions used by others.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking further details on substitution methods. There is a recognition of the complexity introduced by the integral's structure, and some guidance is being offered regarding the relationship between the numerator and denominator.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the integral's form and the implications of the degrees of the numerator and denominator. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity in the substitutions being discussed.

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I know that this integral is solved by the sustitution method

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried converting the integral to the form of Arctanx, but that x2 on the numerator ruined everything. Thanks
 
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sleepwalker27 said:
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http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/cnj1t05jh6e4fxqy4i5_integral.png
I know that this integral is solved by the sustitution method

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried converting the integral to the form of Arctanx, but that x2 on the numerator ruined everything. Thanks
Please show us the substitution you used, which sounds like a trig substitution.
 
Mark44 said:
Please show us the substitution you used, which sounds like a trig substitution.
I tried to made the integral to the form ∫dx/x2+1 so that their solution is something like arctanx
 
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sleepwalker27 said:
I tried to made the integral to the form ∫dx/x2+1 so that their solution is something like arctanx
I figured you did something like that, but that isn't what I asked you for. Please show me your substitution.
 
Did you not notice that the numerator and denominator have the same degree?

\frac{2x^2}{2x^2+ 1}= 1- \frac{1}{2x^2+ 1}
 

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