What the name of old system before digital system for record songs

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The discussion revolves around the historical systems used for recording music prior to the advent of digital technology. Participants explore various methods and technologies, including phonographs, sheet music, and analog tape, while also touching on related topics such as analog versus digital video displays.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants identify "records" as an old system for recording songs.
  • Another participant mentions the "Phonograph," invented by Thomas Edison, as a significant early recording device.
  • It is noted that before the phonograph or gramophone, songs were recorded using sheet music.
  • Analog magnetic tape decks are mentioned as high-quality recording systems used in studios for creating master recordings.
  • One participant discusses the differences in pixel shapes between digital and analog screens, highlighting that analog video uses horizontal scan lines instead of pixels.
  • There is a mention of the limitations of NTSC standard definition video when interpolating on digital monitors, which could lead to noticeable stretching of images.
  • A participant reflects on the historical methods of music transmission, including oral traditions and mechanical devices like wind-up music boxes.
  • Another participant humorously comments on feeling old due to the mention of outdated technology like the 8-track player.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the relevance of certain questions, suggesting they resemble homework assignments.

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Participants present a variety of viewpoints regarding the historical methods of recording music, with no clear consensus on a singular "old system." There are also differing opinions on the relevance of the discussion about pixel shapes in analog versus digital screens.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the historical progression of music recording methods are based on personal recollections and may not encompass all relevant technologies or practices. Additionally, the discussion about pixel shapes includes technical details that may depend on specific definitions and contexts.

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what the name of old system before digital system for record songs...
 
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Records.
 
Thomas Edison invented something called "Phonograph".
 
Before the phonograph or gramophone, the way to record songs was with sheet music.
 
what is difference pixel shape between digital and analog screen
 
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taregg said:
what the name of old system before digital system for record songs...
Analog magnetic tape decks like the ones used in recording studios have very high quality and are/were used to make the "masters" for recording sessions.

wiki_mag_tape_audio_recording.htm

wiki_mag_tape_sound_recording.htm

taregg said:
what is difference pixel shape between digital and analog screen
Digital pixel height / width aspect ratio is 1 / 1. NTSC analog HD pixel aspect ratio is also 1 / 1. NTSC standard definition 480i pixel aspect ratio = (480*4) / (704*3) = 10 / 11 or .909090... . This make it's it really awkward to interpolate / upconvert NTSC standard definition video (like a standard DVD) on a digital monitor. The image could be horizontally stretched by 10% to end up with 1 /1 aspect pixel ratios, but the stretched image would be noticable.

Analog CRT's can adjust beam width, sweep rate, and transition rate, so aspect ratio is variable with these system. Mitsubishi used to make HDTV's that use 3 CRT displays, one red, one green, one blue, in a rear projection system (the CRTs pointed up to a mirror so the image was reflected on a display screen), but 2006 was the last year they made these. The CRT based HDTV had 480p and 1080i as "native modes", taking advantage of beam adjustment so interpolation was only used for 720p, interpolating 4x4 squares of pixels into a 6x6 squares of pixels.

The old analog CRT computer monitors, being able to adjust beam parameters can handle a wide variety of resolutions, and although there is a mask with a fixed number of "holes", the beam can partially cross and/or start/stop between mask hole boundaries, allowing for what at the time were high resolutions, like 2048 x 1536, or 1920 x 1440 (both 4:3 ratios). Sony made a "wide" screen CRT that could display 1920x1080 (16:9 ratio). Example image of a "white" arrow from a CRT screen. Note the partially painted "holes" at the edges. If you stand far enough back you'll see a white arrow.

crtshadowmasks.jpg
 
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timthereaper said:
Before the phonograph or gramophone, the way to record songs was with sheet music.

Oh, so true.
And before that is was through verbilization and memory from one generation to the next.

Geez, I wonder if any parent sings to their child, let alone knows of any bedtime songs to lull their child to sleep anymore!

Another method, besides memorization, printed and electronic was mechanical. Everyone should know about the wind up jewelry box with the mirror, spinning balerina and music when opened. A drum with pin projections rotated and doing so the pin projections picked at metal forks tuned to certain notes and a short little melody was played.

The next big thing was the self playing piano...
 
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Wow, thanks for making me feel old. I think I will go sell my 8-track player now. ;-)
 
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taregg said:
what is difference pixel shape between digital and analog screen


Sounds so much like a homework question...
 

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