What Theories Explore the Deeper Meaning Behind the Constancy of c?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the deeper implications and theoretical foundations surrounding the constancy of the speed of light (c), including its origins and potential alternative explanations. It touches on historical experiments, theoretical frameworks, and speculative ideas related to the constancy of c.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the constancy of c is a postulate derived from historical experiments like the Michelson experiment and Maxwell's equations.
  • One participant suggests that it is possible to arrange theoretical frameworks such that the speed of light appears constant, referencing a specific paper by Eric Gourgoulhon.
  • Another participant argues that an invariant speed can be derived from the principle of relativity, indicating that if this speed is infinite, it leads to Newtonian mechanics, while a finite speed leads to Einstein's theories. They assert that the constancy of the speed of light is a consequence of the massless nature of photons, which must travel at this invariant speed to avoid infinite accelerations.
  • A later reply expresses appreciation for the referenced paper, indicating its accessibility and relevance to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views regarding the implications and derivations of the constancy of c, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with no clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on specific interpretations of relativity and the nature of light, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the implications of invariant speeds and their relation to established physics.

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I understand that the constancy of c is a postulate, back in the day guided by the Michelson experiment and Maxwell's equations. I was wondering, are there any (speculative) theories out there that have this fact as an outcome of something deeper/more basic?
 
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You can arrange things somehow that the speed of light turns out to be constant. Read "Special Relativity in general frames" by Eric Gourgoulhon.
 
You can show that there is an invariant speed from the principle of relativity alone (here). If you let that invariant speed be infinite you get Newton; if you let it be finite you get Einstein. The speed of light has not been mentioned yet.

You can then observe that photons are massless and that they must therefore travel at that invariant speed. Otherwise you get infinite accelerations for any applied force.

In that sense, the constancy of the speed of light is already a consequence of something else. Einstein used it to derive relativity, but it isn't actually necessary.
 
Thank you! That is a fascinating paper, and at a level I can understand too it seems.
 

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