What Time Is It? An Exploration of Time Dilations & Relativity

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The discussion revolves around the concept of time, particularly in relation to time dilation and relativity. Participants explore the implications of motion and gravity on the perception of time, questioning the existence of a "center of the universe" and its relevance to time measurement.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the experience of time for an observer at the "center of the universe," suggesting that time dilation occurs for objects moving at high speeds.
  • Another participant challenges the notion of a "center of the universe," stating that relativity implies there is no absolute reference point for measuring time.
  • It is noted that time is relative to the observer, with different observers potentially experiencing time differently based on their motion and gravitational influence.
  • A later reply asserts that while others may perceive time as slowed for a moving object, the object itself experiences time at a constant rate of one second per second.
  • One participant emphasizes that the question of time measurement from a supposed center of the universe is ultimately meaningless due to the lack of an absolute reference point.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the concept of a "center of the universe" and the implications of time dilation. There is no consensus on the meaning or relevance of such a point in the context of relativity.

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The discussion highlights limitations in understanding time measurement, particularly regarding the assumptions about motion and reference points in the universe. Participants do not resolve the complexities surrounding these concepts.

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What time is it?

I have smart friends. Maybe ya'll can help. I want to know what time it is. Sounds easy doesn't it? But wait, there's more. Things that are moving experience time dilation i.e. observing a ship moving close to the speed of light, while the observer might watch the ship for a year the crew would experience way less time. The faster you go the slower time passes for you. This happens with satellites in orbit as well with gravity. So the Earth revolves around the sun, our solar system revolves around the galactic core, and our galaxy revolves around the universe's center. What is the time for some one standing in the center of the universe?

I'm just an average guy thank you for reading this.

Update: If some thing is stationary, as close to stopped as possible, and has been observing Earth from the beginning of Earth (say 5 billion years-us) how long has the something experienced? Or that previously mentioned something is observing us for an hour to it how long did we experience?
 
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notadoctor said:
center of the universe
I don't think there is such a thing.
 
The first thing you will have to do is tell what you mean by "the center of the universe"! You see to be under the impression that there is some point "motionless" point you are calling "the center of the universe". The whole point of "relativity" is that there is no such point. You can only talk about speed of an object relative to some other object.
 
notadoctor said:
What is the time for some one standing in the center of the universe?

There is no special point that you can call the center of the universe, so there is no person or place whose time is better or more real or more meaningful than somewhere else.
 
Welcome to PF!

The time is now and the place is here, beyond that we can't say much more.

As you've noticed time is relative to the observer and may be different for different observers. While we know about the motion of the Earth relative to the sun and the sun relative to the galaxy and the galaxy relative to other galaxies, we find there is never an absolute place from which we can measure time.

In that sense then your question while good is quite meaningless.

You can read more about time here though:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time
 
notadoctor said:
The faster you go the slower time passes for you.
Absolutely not true. Others may see you as having as slowed time but for you time passes at one second per second regardless of what others think.

Consider this. You, right now as you read this, are MASSIVELY time dilated according to an accelerated particle at CERN, you are mildly time dilated according to some galaxy 5billion light years from here, and you are not time dilated at all according to the chair you are sitting in. Do you feel slowed down to any of these degrees? Do you feel slowed down to all of them at the same time? That would be a good trick.
 

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