What to say: "one mole of C atoms" or "one mole of C molecules"?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the terminology used when referring to moles of carbon (C) and oxygen (O) in the context of carbon monoxide (CO). Participants explore whether to describe them as "moles of atoms" or "moles of molecules," and the implications of these terms in chemical contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that when discussing CO, one should refer to "one mole of C atoms" and "one mole of O atoms" after dissociation, while others argue for the use of "one mole of CO molecules" when referring to the compound as a whole.
  • There is mention of definitions of molecules, including the idea that a molecule can be a single atom, which complicates the terminology used for elements like C and O.
  • One participant notes that it is common to refer to "one mole of carbon" or "one mole of oxygen" without specifying atoms or molecules, as the context usually clarifies this.
  • Another participant points out that the term "one mole of oxygen" can be ambiguous and suggests that clarification is necessary to avoid confusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate terminology, with no consensus reached on whether to emphasize atoms or molecules in the context of CO and its components.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the ambiguity in terminology related to moles, atoms, and molecules, particularly in distinguishing between elemental forms and molecular compounds.

Indranil
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As we know, Please point out if I am wrong here
one molecule of CO = one mole of CO molecules = 6.223 X 10^23 number of CO molecules
If I split one molecule of CO, we get one C and one O. Here are my questions, What to say these ''one C and one O" one mole of C atoms and one mole of O atoms or ''one mole of C molecules and one mole of O molecules'' or just like above like ''one C and one O''?
Could you clarify it, please? I am confused
 
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If you do a search, you can find some definitions of molecule as a "group of atoms" bonded, or "2 or more atoms...". I also found ones which stated it could be a single atom molecule, being the smallest unit of the substance which maintains all of the properties.

Single oxygen atoms are probably not going to stay that way. They are going to pair up and form O2 Oxygen molecules. Carbon atoms can be single or bond with other carbons in a lattice structure.
I would state a mole of atoms, if you are talking about the atoms. If it is a molecule (like O2) then I would say molecules.
 
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scottdave said:
I also found ones which stated it could be a single atom molecule, being the smallest unit of the substance which maintains all of the properties.
The only case where I've seen this actually used is for noble gases.

In the present case, I see no reason to call C or O molecules.
 
DrClaude said:
The only case where I've seen this actually used is for noble gases.

In the present case, I see no reason to call C or O molecules.
Then what should I call ''C'' and ''O'' here in CO?
 
Indranil said:
Then what should I call ''C'' and ''O'' here in CO?
Atoms. Dissociating one mole of CO gives you one mole of C atoms and one mole of O atoms.
 
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DrClaude said:
Atoms. Dissociating one mole of CO gives you one mole of C atoms and one mole of O atoms.
One mole of CO means one mole of CO molecules here?
 
I would speak of neither atoms nor molecules, here. Just say one mole of carbon or one mole of carbon monoxide or one mole of oxygen. With elements, it is understood that you refer to C or O, and not to O2. If you want to speak of moles of molecular oxygen, say one mole of dioxygen or O2. The mole is a macroscopic unit of substance, so usually it is not necessary to refer to the atomistic basis.
 
Indranil said:
One mole of CO means one mole of CO molecules here?

Yes.
 
DrDu said:
With elements, it is understood that you refer to C or O, and not to O2.

This is tricky, "one mole of oxygen" is ambiguous. It is best to elaborate what one really means by that.
 

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