What Was Alice's Speed When Bob Caught Up?

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The problem involves two runners, Bob and Alice, where Bob starts running after Alice has already passed him. Bob accelerates after a delay, and the question seeks to determine Alice's constant speed when Bob catches up to her.

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion and the conditions under which Bob catches up to Alice, questioning the relationship between their speeds and positions over time.

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Some participants have attempted to derive Alice's speed based on calculations involving Bob's acceleration and the time it takes for him to catch up. There are indications of confusion regarding the correct application of the equations and the time intervals involved in the problem.

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Participants note discrepancies in the interpretation of the problem statement, particularly concerning the timing of Bob's acceleration and the distances covered by both runners. There is also mention of the need to ensure that the equations used accurately reflect the conditions described in the problem.

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Homework Statement


Bob is running at a constant speed of 5.00 m/s when Alice runs past him in the same direction. Precisely 1.00 s after Alice passes him, Bob starts to accelerate at a constant rate of 2.00 m/s2. Bob catches up with Alice after accelerating for 6.00 s. Alice kept the same constant speed the entire time. What was her speed?

Homework Equations


vf=vi + at

The Attempt at a Solution


Since Alice is running at a constant velocity the whole time, her a=0 m/s^2. That means her initial velocity is equal to her final velocity.

vf = vi

Now for Bob:

vf = vi + at
vf = (5m/s) + (2 m/s^2)(6s-1s)
vf= 15 m/s

So Alice's velocity must have been 15 m/s. I know I calculated Bob's velocity. This is not the correct answer. What am I doing wrong?
 
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Physiks2 said:

Homework Statement


Bob is running at a constant speed of 5.00 m/s when Alice runs past him in the same direction. Precisely 1.00 s after Alice passes him, Bob starts to accelerate at a constant rate of 2.00 m/s2. Bob catches up with Alice after accelerating for 6.00 s. Alice kept the same constant speed the entire time. What was her speed?

Homework Equations


vf=vi + at

The Attempt at a Solution


Since Alice is running at a constant velocity the whole time, her a=0 m/s^2. That means her initial velocity is equal to her final velocity.

vf = vi

Now for Bob:

vf = vi + at
vf = (5m/s) + (2 m/s^2)(6s-1s)
vf= 15 m/s

So Alice's velocity must have been 15 m/s. I know I calculated Bob's velocity. This is not the correct answer. What am I doing wrong?
It's not enough that Bob matches Sally's speed in order to catch up. When Bob catches up with Alice, their locations must coincide. What equations must you use in order to determine where Bob or Sally is at any given time?
 
SteamKing said:
It's not enough that Bob matches Sally's speed in order to catch up. When Bob catches up with Alice, their locations must coincide. What equations must you use in order to determine where Bob or Sally is at any given time?

x = x0 +v0 + (1/2)at^2.

So if both of their locations must equal to each other, then:

Alice:
x = x0 + v0t + (1/2)(0)t^2
x = x0 + v0t

Bob:
x = x0 +v0t + (1/2)at^2

If we combine these two together:

v0t = v0t + (1/2)at^2
v0(5s) = (5 m/s)(5s) + (1/2)(2m/s^2)(5s)^2
v0(5s) = 25m + 25m
v0(5s) = 50m

Alice's velocity = 10 m/s

Is this right?
 
Physiks2 said:
x = x0 +v0 + (1/2)at^2.

So if both of their locations must equal to each other, then:

Alice:
x = x0 + v0t + (1/2)(0)t^2
x = x0 + v0t

Bob:
x = x0 +v0t + (1/2)at^2

If we combine these two together:

v0t = v0t + (1/2)at^2
v0(5s) = (5 m/s)(5s) + (1/2)(2m/s^2)(5s)^2
v0(5s) = 25m + 25m
v0(5s) = 50m

Does your equation for the distance Bob ran after Alice match the description from the original problem statement? To wit:

Physiks2 said:

Homework Statement


Bob is running at a constant speed of 5.00 m/s when Alice runs past him in the same direction. Precisely 1.00 s after Alice passes him, Bob starts to accelerate at a constant rate of 2.00 m/s2. Bob catches up with Alice after accelerating for 6.00 s. Alice kept the same constant speed the entire time. What was her speed?
From the Problem Statement:
1. Bob is running at 5 m/s, constant velocity.
2. 1 second after Alice passes Bob, Bob accelerates at 2 m/s2.
3. After accelerating for 6 seconds, Bob catches Alice.

From Your Equation:
1. Bob is running at 5 m/s, constant velocity.
2. Bob accelerates at 2 m/s2.
3. After accelerating for 5 seconds, Bob catches Alice.

I think there are some discrepancies between the two descriptions here.
 

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