What Was the Energy of the Incoming Photon?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving an elementary particle that absorbs a photon, resulting in a change in mass. Participants are tasked with determining the energy of the incoming photon and exploring why this energy exceeds a specific threshold related to the particle's mass-energy equivalence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and the implications of the mass change after photon absorption. Some express uncertainty about the physical feasibility of the scenario and question the definitions of mass being used.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants offering various interpretations of the problem. Some have suggested using velocity as a variable in calculations, while others are questioning the assumptions about the nature of elementary particles and their mass changes upon photon absorption.

Contextual Notes

There are concerns about the completeness of the problem statement and the physical plausibility of the described process. Participants are also considering the implications of relativistic mass versus rest mass in their discussions.

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An elementary particle of mass M completely absorbs a photon, after which its mass is 1.01M. (a) What was the energy of the incoming photon? (b) Why is that energy greater than 0.01Mc2?




Homework Equations


p (photon) = E/c
p (particle) = γmv
p(i) = p(f)
Ek = γmc^2 -mc^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I really have no idea where to start without having knowledge of the velocity of the particle after the collision
 
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Just use v as velocity. Momentum conservation will give you that velocity during the calculations.
 
jacksonb62 said:

Homework Statement



An elementary particle of mass M completely absorbs a photon, after which its mass is 1.01M. (a) What was the energy of the incoming photon? (b) Why is that energy greater than 0.01Mc2?


Homework Equations


p (photon) = E/c
p (particle) = γmv
p(i) = p(f)
Ek = γmc^2 -mc^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I really have no idea where to start without having knowledge of the velocity of the particle after the collision
Was that the complete problem statement? I don't think the situation described is physically possible.
 
It is possible, it is the reverse process of a gamma decay.
 
But that's with a nucleus, which has a substructure. I guess it seems a little odd to me to say that an elementary particle changes its mass by absorbing a photon unless it's referring to its relativistic mass.
 
It becomes a different elementary particle. There are no suitable elementary particles for that process (and it would probably need weak higher-order processes), but I don't think we have to worry about that.
"Mass" has to be rest mass, otherwise the second question does not make sense.
Elementary just guarantees we don't have to worry about rotations and so on.
 

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