What Was Your Original Speed on the Freeway?

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The problem involves determining the original speed of a vehicle on a freeway based on the time taken to travel between mile markers and the effect of an increased speed on that time. The context is rooted in kinematics and speed-distance-time relationships.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between speed, distance, and time, attempting to set up equations based on the problem statement. There are attempts to eliminate variables and simplify equations, with some participants expressing confusion over the number of unknowns.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants providing hints and suggestions for approaching the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the elimination of variables and the importance of correctly converting units, but no consensus has been reached on a solution.

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Participants note the challenge of dealing with multiple unknowns and the need for correct unit conversions, particularly regarding the time change from seconds to hours. There is also mention of notation issues that may affect understanding of the equations being used.

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Homework Statement


Driving along a crowded freeway, you notice that it takes a time t to go from one mile marker to the next. When you increase your speed by 7.0 mi/h, the time to go one mile decreases by 12 s. What was your original speed?


Homework Equations


D = VT

The Attempt at a Solution



D = VT
1 = (Vi+7)(T-0.2)
Vi = 1/(T-0.2) - 7

I have 2 unknowns and I don't know how to solve?
 
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zeromodz said:
D = VT
1 = (Vi+7)(T-0.2)
Vi = 1/(T-0.2) - 7

I have 2 unknowns and I don't know how to solve?

You are almost done! You know the value of D, and by eliminating T from the first two equations you shold get the right answer.
 
N-Gin said:
You are almost done! You know the value of D, and by eliminating T from the first two equations you shold get the right answer.

I can't solve it. I ended up with

V = 1/(1/V-0.2) - 7
 
Originally, it took T hours to travel 1 mile with Vi speed.

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Can someone please tell me how to solve this instead of beating around the bush?
 
The distance D = 1 \, \mathrm{mi}. Also, 12 \, \mathrm{s} = 1/5 \, \mathrm{min} = 1/300 \, \mathrm{h}.
 
Hint: There's another relation between v_{i} and t that you have not taken into account.
 
Dickfore said:
Hint: There's another relation between v_{i} and t that you have not taken into account.

I have tried that, I just cannot find the answer.
 
zeromodz said:
I have tried that, I just cannot find the answer.

You tried solving both equations for V_i and you couldn't find the answer? Did you get a quadratic equation?
 
  • #10
zeromodz said:
I have tried that, I just cannot find the answer.

zeromodz said:
I can't solve it. I ended up with

V = 1/(1/V-0.2) - 7

This is an equation with one unknown that can be further simplified. However, it is wrong because you had not converted 12 s into hours correctly.
 
  • #11
Dickfore said:
This is an equation with one unknown that can be further simplified. However, it is wrong because you had not converted 12 s into hours correctly.

Sorry, it would be

V = 1/(1/V-0.00333) - 7

I still don't know how to solve for V
 
  • #12
Get rid of the double fractions first and then multiply everything with the common denominator to get rid of fractions.
 
  • #13
Dickfore said:
Get rid of the double fractions first and then multiply everything with the common denominator to get rid of fractions.

V = 1/(1/V-0.00333) - 7
V = -V/0.003333 - 7
V + 7 = -V/0.0033333
0.003333V + 0.0233333 = -V
0.003333V + V = 0.023333
V(0.00333 + 1) = 0.023333
V = 0.023333 / (0.00333 + 1)
V = 0.022 mph?
 
  • #14
zeromodz said:
V = 1/(1/V-0.00333) - 7
V = -V/0.003333 - 7

This is incorrect.
 
  • #15
Dickfore said:
This is incorrect.
How is it incorrect? If you take

1 / 2 / 3 = 3 / 2
 
  • #16
But, this is not what you have. There is a "-" sign in there. Also, if you take:

zeromodz said:
How is it incorrect? If you take

1 / 2 / 3 = 3 / 2

as it is written, it might mean:

(1/2)/3 = 1/6 or 1/(2/3) = 3/2

so you have to be careful with your notation. I suggest learning LaTeX:

<br /> \frac{1}{\frac{2}{3}} = \frac{3}{2}<br />
 

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