What Went Wrong? Solving for X in an Inequality

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The discussion revolves around solving the inequality x^2 + x + 1 > 2, specifically focusing on the steps taken to manipulate the expression and the resulting interpretations of the solutions.

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  • Participants explore various methods for solving the inequality, including factoring, using the discriminant, and completing the square. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the factorization and the implications of the signs of the factors.

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Several participants have pointed out potential errors in the original poster's approach, particularly in the factorization and interpretation of the inequality. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to solve the problem, with no consensus reached yet.

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Participants note that assumptions about the signs of factors and the conditions for solutions may need to be reconsidered. The discussion also highlights the importance of correctly expressing solutions in the context of inequalities.

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Homework Statement



Solve for X

Homework Equations



x^2 + x + 1 > 2

The Attempt at a Solution



x2 + x - 1 > 0

(x + 2)(x - 1/2) > 0

x > 2
x > 1/2

Wolfram Alpha said that the solutions for X are:

x>1/2 (sqrt(5)-1)

and

x<1/2 (-1-sqrt(5))

what did I do wrong?
 
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jrdunaway said:

Homework Statement



Solve for X

Homework Equations



x^2 + x + 1 > 2

The Attempt at a Solution



x2 + x - 1 > 0

(x + 2)(x - 1/2) > 0

x > 2
x > 1/2

Wolfram Alpha said that the solutions for X are:

x>1/2 (sqrt(5)-1)

and

x<1/2 (-1-sqrt(5))

what did I do wrong?

Well, for one thing, your factorisation of x2 + x - 1 to (x + 2)(x - 1/2) is wrong.

You can see that by multiplying those factors together. They won't equal the original quadratic.

What's the discriminant of the quadratic?

The other error is in supposing that, if AB > 0, then A > 0 and B > 0 is the only solution. Don't forget that A < 0 and B < 0 is also a valid solution. Remember, if you multiply two negative numbers together, you get a positive.

Another mistake was going from x + 2 > 0 to x > 2. Shouldn't that be x > -2?

The last mistake was in the way you expressed your solution. Even though you considered the A > 0 and B > 0 case, you wrote the solution as x > 2, x > 1/2. Remember the "AND" condition. If x > 2 AND x > 1/2, you should simply "collapse" that solution to x > 2 (the bigger value) since everything that's bigger than 2 is also bigger than 1/2. Of course, 2 and 1/2 are wrong values for this question (as I mentioned earlier), but I'm using them to demonstrate the concept for you.
 
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jrdunaway said:
what did I do wrong?

Here is what you did wrong:
x2 + x - 1 > 0

(x + 2)(x - 1/2) > 0

(x+2)(x-1/2) = x2 + 1.5x - 1, not x2 + x - 1.
 
Why would you go trying to factor when all you have to do is bring the 2 to the left side and solve the equation (x^2+x+?=0) by finding the discriminant Δ and you'll get 2 real roots. Then go on from there.
 
Another method is to complete the square, getting p^2 > ...
 

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