What will determine your voting decisions?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the factors influencing voting decisions in the context of upcoming elections, with a focus on party affiliation, political candidates, and various national issues. Participants express their views on the Republican and Democratic parties, personal voting strategies, and the implications of political actions on future elections.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a strong aversion to voting for Republicans, citing dissatisfaction with party leadership and policies, particularly regarding foreign policy and fiscal management.
  • Others indicate a shift towards voting for Democrats, emphasizing the need for change and accountability in government.
  • Several participants identify as independents, balancing fiscal conservatism with social liberalism, and express a desire for significant changes before considering Republican candidates again.
  • Concerns are raised about the erosion of individual rights and the perceived incompetence of the current administration, with some advocating for voting for minority candidates as a protest.
  • One participant humorously suggests that superficial traits, like appearance, may influence their voting decision.
  • A later reply critiques a previous list of grievances against the Republican party, suggesting omissions and highlighting issues related to scientific integrity, political appointments, and broader national security concerns.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express disagreement regarding the effectiveness and integrity of the Republican party, with many advocating for a shift towards Democratic candidates. However, there is no consensus on the best approach to voting or the implications of these political dynamics.

Contextual Notes

Participants' views are influenced by personal experiences and perceptions of political events, leading to a diverse range of opinions on party affiliation and candidate selection. The discussion reflects a complex interplay of individual values, political beliefs, and reactions to current events.

  • #31
I still think a person sells their services for what it's worth. If you artificially push their wages higher, you're really pushing their jobs overseas to someone else. Of course, that means improving education is even more important.
I personally believe that most corporate managers, particularly upper management and CEO's are overly/excessively compensated. Most of what is accomplished in an organization is by virtue of the direct work of salary/wage earners, and not the work of management and CEO's.

I have no problem with a CEO, board member or manager who 'invests' his/her capital, which they put at risk, and if the company is successful, they are reasonably compensated. But I strongly object to the likes of Lay, Ebbers, and others who use (put at risk) other peoples' money (not their own) and then compensate themselves as though they used their own. I worked with two managers who made in excess of $100,000, and when the company had difficulty, they whined about how they 'had never asked to be' VP/Pres, and so on - yet they were quite satisfied to accept the significant compensation.

I expect and demand fairness in the workplace.

As for corporate taxes, one possible solution would be to tie corporate tax rates to the ratio of the highest salary to the lowest wage. The motivation would be to reduce CEO/management compensation and raise the lowest wages. I firmly believe in 'sweat equity'.
 
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  • #32
Strategy for Voting

After many years of voting, I believe the best approach to voting in these contemporary times is to vote for thoughtful and accountable leadership. I believe the "Peter Principle" applies to politics too - and that Washington needs a wake up call - courtesy of a new JOB!

Because of the high degree of ambiguousness involving Iraq, terrorism, 911, privacy, health care, taxes, and the economy, plus a Congress apparently unwilling to challenge this White House, simply one House change in Democrat control I feel would improve federal oversight and decision-making. Competition is a good thing. Seems the Dems would prefer to control the Senate. I'll take either one.

As for states, my State of California has gone too far to the left, as was revealed when the assembly and LA mayor endorsed demonstrations (that shunt down freeways) for and by illegal immigrant amnesty. Additionally, the SF mayor too eagerly overstepped his bounds in granting marriage licenses to gay couples. As for state propositions, you really have to read through the language, but can get a sense also for who endores each.

My best to all on this special election day for a more united America.
 
  • #33
My wife and I have already voted, and though both of us are fiercely independent, we both voted straight party-line tickets for Democrats. The do-nothing Congress has abysmally failed in its oversight of the Administration and has engaged in greasing lobbyists clients to a degree that they should be prosecuted for bribery. I don't pretend that the Democrats are a bit better. In this 2-party system, the major difference between them hinges on who they want to give all my tax money to. The reason that we voted the way we did is to help drive a wave of wake-up-call voting that shows both parties that the US public will turn them out if they don't clean up.

We need open elections with standardized paper ballots that can be scanned, and rescanned if the need for a recount arises. We also need strict limits to campaign donations, and I believe that ONLY individuals should be able to contribute, and only to a financial cap that will not disenfranchise the middle class. Obviously, most of us cannot afford to give $1000 each to our choice for Senator, House Representative, etc. Failing that, we should have publicly-funded elections at all levels. If a candidate can file petitions with enough signatures, they are on the ballot. This would somewhat dilute the power of the two political parties, that are in my opinion about as different as Coke vs Pepsi, Time vs Newsweek, or the choice between being hanged or shot.

Please vote tomorrow, and vote for effect. I don't appeal to you all to do what my wife and I did - you all have your own motivations and your own candidates - but PLEASE vote. Make your voice heard so that citizens can regain some sort of importance in the eyes of our "rulers" (they pretend to serve us, but serve K street and special interests for the most part.)
 
  • #34
I haven't decided yet, but I've got it narrowed down. Another day or two and I'll be ready.
 

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