What work does p-consciousness do?

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The forum discussion centers on the role of p-consciousness in relation to the theories of consciousness proposed by Ned Block and David Chalmers, specifically addressing the distinction between access consciousness and phenomenal consciousness. Participants argue that p-consciousness must have a functional role in the physical world, with suggestions that it may be linked to quantum mechanics and the coordination of complex systems. Gregg Rosenberg's Theory of Natural Individuals is referenced, proposing that the purpose of natural individuals is to achieve effective states by reducing possible joint states. The conversation highlights the challenges of attributing a functional role to p-consciousness, especially in light of unconscious brain activities.

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  • #31
Canute said:
Not all evidence is scientific or even intrasubjective

Not intrasubjective? Mind reading?
 
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selfAdjoint said:
Not intrasubjective? Mind reading?

Even if you can read minds, you're not going to satisfy the people that make these kinds of objections (I'm not referring to Canute, as he obviously agrees that no humans are zombies). They'll say you're reading the thoughts formed by a brain, but you have not proved the existence of any subjective experiencer of those thoughts. Don't forget how they stress that thinking and consciousness are not the same thing, nor is either proof of the existence of the other.
 
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selfAdjoint said:
Not intrasubjective? Mind reading?
I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
 

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