What's the Antiderivative of $\tan(x)/x$?

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The discussion revolves around the antiderivative of the function $\frac{\tan(x)}{x}$. Participants explore various methods of integration, including integration by parts and the use of Fourier series, while addressing the complexity of the integral.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the antiderivative of $\frac{\tan(x)}{x}$, expressing difficulty in evaluating it.
  • Another suggests using integration by parts, noting it can be tedious.
  • Some participants argue that the integral cannot be expressed as a finite combination of elementary functions.
  • There is a suggestion to use the Fourier series for $\tan(x)$ as an alternative approach.
  • One participant proposes defining a new function based on the integral, highlighting potential issues with the convergence of infinite series.
  • Several participants discuss the integration by parts method, with one providing a specific approach and another challenging the correctness of the derivation.
  • A participant shares a link to a PDF containing a derivation related to the Fourier series for $\tan(x)$, mentioning its poor convergence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of evaluating the integral using elementary functions. While some suggest integration by parts, others assert that it cannot be simplified in that manner. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the convergence of series and the applicability of integration techniques. The discussion reflects various perspectives on the complexity of the integral without reaching a consensus.

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Hi, I am just wondering what the antiderivative of this integral was. It looks easy to me, but I no matter what I did just could not evaluate it. Can someone help me?:
$$\int \frac{\tan(x)}{x}\;dx$$
 
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Have you tried integration by parts? It can be a bit tedious but it isn't to bad.
 
Actually, that integral isn't so simple. It cannot be stated as a finite combination of elementary functions.
 
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In fact, that is true for all trig functions over x.
 
How about using the Fourier series for tan?
 
It depends on the application. If this is part of a larger problem it may be more convenient to define a new function in terms of the integral rather than write an infinite series repeatedly.
f'(x)=\frac{\tan{x}}{x}
f(x)=\int_{0}^{x}\frac{\tan{t}}{t}dt
One problem that may occur with infinite series is the radius of convergence. While tan(x)/x may have a value at certain values of x, the infinite series may not converge.
 
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eddybob123 said:
Hi, I am just wondering what the antiderivative of this integral was. It looks easy to me, but I no matter what I did just could not evaluate it. Can someone help me?:
$$\int \frac{\tan(x)}{x}\;dx$$

Use integration by parts twice.
 
babysnatcher said:
Use integration by parts twice.

Please demonstrate.
 
Bleh, let dv = 1/x u = tanx for the first integration by parts.

Then with the second integral you get let dv = 1/x and dv = sec^2(x)dx. You'll notice that after you do integration by parts twice, that you'll have the same integral on both sides, so combine like terms and come out with ln(x)tan(x)
 
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MarneMath said:
Bleh, let dv = 1/x u = tanx for the first integration by parts.

Then with the second integral you get let dv = 1/x and dv = sec^2(x)dx. You'll notice that after you do integration by parts twice, that you'll have the same integral on both sides, so combine like terms and come out with ln(x)tan(x)

You are mistaken.
\frac{d}{dx}(\log{x}\tan{x})=\log{x}\sec^{2}{x}+\frac{\tan{x}}{x}

Here is where you went wrong.
\int\frac{\tan{x}}{x}dx=\log{|x|}\tan{x}-\int\log{|x|}\sec^{2}{x}dx
 
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eddybob123 said:
How about using the Fourier series for tan?

What would this look like?
 
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DeeAytch said:
What would this look like?

Here is a derivation someone has already done. It is a .pdf.

http://web.mit.edu/jorloff/www/18.03-esg/notes/fourier-tan.pdf

It converges poorly, however.
 

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