Whats the difference between a masters degree and a graduate certifica

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The discussion centers on the differences between a master's degree and a graduate certificate in mechanical engineering, exploring aspects such as cost, employability, salary potential, and the nature of the educational programs. The conversation includes considerations of job market implications and the varying perceptions of these qualifications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a graduate certificate is less involved and less expensive than a master's degree, impacting the perceived value in the job market.
  • Others argue that higher salary jobs are significantly harder to obtain without a master's degree, indicating a strong preference among employers for candidates with advanced degrees.
  • There is a mention of a research component being a key difference, with some suggesting that master's programs typically involve more rigorous research compared to graduate certificates.
  • One participant notes that a graduate diploma is often viewed as a fallback option for those who do not complete a master's degree.
  • Cost considerations are highlighted, with some participants indicating that many individuals enter the workforce before pursuing a master's degree later on.
  • A question is raised regarding the specific types of master's degrees (e.g., BSME vs. MSME) and the implications of having a BSMET when considering further education in engineering.
  • Clarification is provided on the terminology used for degrees, emphasizing the need to understand different educational systems internationally.
  • One participant suggests that borderline candidates may be allowed to enroll in a graduate diploma program that could lead to a master's degree upon meeting certain academic criteria.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the value and implications of holding a master's degree versus a graduate certificate, with no consensus reached on which is definitively better for employability or salary outcomes.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the acceptance of different engineering degrees into master's programs and the specific requirements that may vary by institution and country.

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I understand that a graduate certificate is a lot less involved and expensive than a Masters degree. What would be the difference in holding a masters in mechanical engineering verse a graduate certificate in mechanical engineering? How would the pay offs compare in salary and employability between the two?
 
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Depends on the Job - it is easier to get a job pumping gas with a graduate diploma than a Masters degree ;)

If you don't have the ME, the higher salary jobs will be A LOT harder to come by.
Most people with one [masters] find the payoff works for them, and employers who care about how hard it is to get the degree will insist on the higher one. One of the key differences is the research component too (vs dissertation Masters which is usually considered weaker.)

The graduate diploma is usually thought of as a consolation prize for not getting your masters.

Cost is a major factor - a lot of people enter the workforce and return to do their Masters later.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Depends on the Job - it is easier to get a job pumping gas with a graduate diploma than a Masters degree ;)

If you don't have the ME, the higher salary jobs will be A LOT harder to come by.
Most people with one [masters] find the payoff works for them, and employers who care about how hard it is to get the degree will insist on the higher one. One of the key differences is the research component too (vs dissertation Masters which is usually considered weaker.)

The graduate diploma is usually thought of as a consolation prize for not getting your masters.

Cost is a major factor - a lot of people enter the workforce and return to do their Masters later.

When you said ME, did you mean BSME or MSME? Right now I have a BSMET and I am considering getting a second bachelors in ME or possibly a masters but I don't know that I can get accepted to a MSME program with a BSMET, also I don't know that a MSME is necessarily a good idea.
 
"ME", here, is a catch-all shorthand for "Master of Engineering" - whatever kind.
"PGDipE" would be the same sort of thing only "Post Graduate Diploma in Engineering"

This being an international forum, I didn't want to second guess the degree programs offered by tertiary institutions in different countries.

You should talk to the post-grad dean of engineering or equivalent in your institution.
The Technology degree may be considered borderline for a non-technology Engineering Masters ... but what often happens with borderline entrants is that they enroll you in a slightly beefed up version of the graduate diploma program, and, if you should meet some grade benchmark, you transfer the credits to a Masters the next year. The Diploma year effectively forming the first year of your Masters program.
 

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