What's the Point in Getting Good Grades in Your Undergrad?

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The discussion centers on the perceived value of good grades in undergraduate education, particularly for middle-class students who may find graduate school financially unwise. Many participants argue that a bachelor's degree has become a basic requirement for employment, with GPA often being less critical unless pursuing advanced degrees. The conversation highlights the importance of learning and acquiring skills over merely achieving high grades, suggesting that understanding the material is more beneficial than focusing solely on GPA. Some contributors emphasize that good grades can lead to better job opportunities and higher earning potential, while others share personal experiences of balancing work and study. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards the idea that while grades matter to some extent, the primary goal of college should be genuine learning and skill development.
  • #31
streeters said:
Really? I constantly read bios where they mention their degree class. I also see a lot of graduate programs that want 1st class degrees. Looks like we travel in different circles.

Can you provide examples of graduate programmes that require first class degrees?
 
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  • #32
Shaun_W said:
Can you provide examples of graduate programmes that require first class degrees?

ok, when I applied to Rolls Royce they only considered 1st class degrees due to a shrink in manufacture that year.
 
  • #33
Grades in bachelor's degrees do matter, but it's more like a cut-off than a sliding scale. The cut-off is 3.0-3.3, or perhaps 3.7 for IBanking or strategy consultancy or something.

And the OP has a point. Some people care about understanding the universe, but for the most part college is just a credential factory designed to get people generic office and retail jobs without making them better at performing those jobs.
 
  • #34
mdxyz said:
Some people care about understanding the universe, but for the most part college is just a credential factory designed to get people generic office and retail jobs without making them better at performing those jobs.

I fall under the former category (I care about learning) but I still agree with this. I had a math prof once that asked an entering class (mixed STEM fields) if they would bother going to/paying for college if it didn't help them get a decent job afterwards. They all answered no and the prof thought it was totally reasonable.
 
  • #35
I think a college education/degree serves different purposes (particularly in science):

1. To teach you facts and methods of solving problems.

2. To teach you/allow you to figure out how to learn on your own.

3. To certify to future employers/graduate schools that you have learned facts and methods of solving problems and are able to teach yourself more.

Grades are a part of number 3. I personally think they do a pretty good job of this.
 
  • #36
Just because your grades won't be looked at by future employers should not mean you shouldn't take pride in your grades. Don't you want to leave university knowing that you did your best? If all you care about is the degree then clearly the point of post-secondary education is lost on you. The point is to learn not just information but a good work ethic.
 

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