What's the relationship between phonon spectrum and thermal conductivity

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The discussion centers on the relationship between phonon spectrum and thermal conductivity, exploring how to analyze and compare the thermal conductivity of different materials based on their phonon properties. Participants discuss theoretical approaches and parameters relevant to this analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to analyze thermal conductivity using phonon spectra and emphasizes the need for understanding phonon behavior under thermal equilibrium.
  • Another participant notes that thermal conductivity analysis requires knowledge of phonon velocity and highlights the complexity introduced by temperature differences at each end of a material.
  • Several participants suggest that to compare thermal conductivity, one must consider the respective velocities of phonons and the total number of phonons, which can be derived from the phonon spectrum.
  • Literature references are made to analytical models for thermal conductivity in nanostructures, mentioning two methods: phonon spectrum method and wave vector method.
  • One participant points out that calculating thermal conductivity also requires parameters like group velocity and relaxation time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of phonon velocity and the total number of phonons in analyzing thermal conductivity. However, there is no consensus on the specific methods or parameters that should be prioritized for comparison, indicating multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the specific phonon spectra being discussed and the implications of temperature variations on phonon behavior. There are also references to specific equations and literature that may not be universally accessible or agreed upon.

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I mean how can i analysis the thermal conductivity of two structures with their phonon spectrum.
thank you!
 
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It's hard to get the formula of thermal conductivity only by the spectrum.

Because:
The spectrum is analyzed when the material is under thermal equilibrium, which suggesting the temperature of the material is a fixed value, i.e. T0.

During the analysis of thermal conductivity, two different temperature is applied to two ends of the material.

That means different number of acoustic phonon will be produced at each end.

And therefore phonon at one end with high temperature will flow toward the other with low temperature.

In a conclusion, if you want to get the specific formula, you need to know the average velocity of the phonon in flowing.
 
Thank you!Your reply is vividly,it did help me a lot about the physical meaning of phonon and the thermal conductivity.

May I ask you another question?

If I got spectra of two materials at the same temperature, how can I distinguish which material's thermal conduction is better (more efficient). The number of acoustic phonon, or some other parameters.
 
To comparison for the thermal conductivity of two different materials, you need to know the respective velocity of phonon. Without the velocity, it is hard to do anything.

I don't know what phonon spectrum you have. Generally, the spectrum respresents the number of phonon (axis Y) at each energy (axis X). The energy is denoted by the frequency w.

Therefore, you may calculate the total number of phonon by integral the spectrum.
 
shawl said:
To comparison for the thermal conductivity of two different materials, you need to know the respective velocity of phonon. Without the velocity, it is hard to do anything.

I don't know what phonon spectrum you have. Generally, the spectrum respresents the number of phonon (axis Y) at each energy (axis X). The energy is denoted by the frequency w.

Therefore, you may calculate the total number of phonon by integral the spectrum.

I read some literature about the analytical model for the thermal conductivity of nanostructures, fount that there are two methods for us to get the thermal conductivity from the phonon properties:
  1. phonon spectrum method;
  2. wave vector method.
You can see the details in Patrice Chantrenne's paper :the analytical model for the thermal conductivity of nanostructures.
 
wdliwei said:
I read some literature about the analytical model for the thermal conductivity of nanostructures, fount that there are two methods for us to get the thermal conductivity from the phonon properties:
  1. phonon spectrum method;
  2. wave vector method.
You can see the details in Patrice Chantrenne's paper :the analytical model for the thermal conductivity of nanostructures.

Thank you! You really give me a lesson.

Noted the eq. 6 in the paper you given. The thermal conductivity to be calculated requires not only the group volecity v but also the relaxation time torr.

Please refer to "proposal for a single molecule field effect transistor for phonons" (Phys. Rev. B 81 (2010) 012302.) authored by Marcos G. Menezes.
 
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