What's the Story Behind Stony Brook's Bridge to Nowhere?

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The discussion revolves around the "Bridge to Nowhere" at Stony Brook, exploring its origins, interpretations, and related architectural oddities. Participants share anecdotes, opinions on design failures, and reflections on art in architecture, with a focus on humor and critique.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the bridge is part of an art project by Frank Kunert, while others express skepticism about its artistic value.
  • A participant shares a personal anecdote about a government lab's safety modifications that resulted in a door leading to a drop, drawing parallels to the bridge's absurdity.
  • There is a discussion about various architectural designs that appear nonsensical, with some attributing these to poor planning or bureaucratic oversight.
  • Some participants speculate that certain designs, like a balcony without a window, may be intentional architectural features rather than mistakes.
  • One participant mentions that many of the discussed designs originate from the former Soviet bloc, suggesting a cultural context for these oddities.
  • There are differing opinions on whether certain designs should be considered art, with some arguing that they lack artistic merit while others defend their artistic value.
  • Participants reference humorous examples of design failures and the absurdity of certain architectural decisions, including a critique of reliance on blueprints without practical consideration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the nature of the bridge and similar designs. While some view them as artistic expressions, others see them as failures or absurdities. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the artistic merit and intent behind these structures.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that many of the designs discussed may lack complete information or context, leading to speculation about their purpose and execution. There is also mention of varying standards in architectural practices across different regions and institutions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying architecture, design, or urban planning, as well as individuals intrigued by the intersection of art and functionality in public spaces.

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All of these are true except one ( it's an art projectby Frank Kunert)

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mgb_phys said:
All of these are true except one ( it's an art projectby Frank Kunert)
I'm guessing the escalators.

This is quite the thread.
 
OAQfirst said:
I'm guessing the escalators.
No.

I actually have a real life example of how this happens (but no photo)
I was working in a government lab when the operation was taken over by a university.
The university has to work to safety standards that the government is exempt from and they decided that we needed an extra fire exit from my lab.

However they were only responsible for the operation of the lab not the structure - so they couldn't make any major alterations. Instead they took out a window and installed a fire door at waist height. A few weeks later they came and built a little set of wooden steps upto the door.

What they never built was the outside fire escape from this first floor (second floor for Americans) doorway!

Then it got surreal. We taped up the door and put big warning notices not to open it, the health and safety people came and told us off for blocking a fire exit. We pointed out that it opened onto a 15ft drop, but that wasn't their problem - the outside of the building wasn't their responsibility!

We became quite famous, people would come and visit our lab just to see the famous door to nowhere!
 
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rootX said:
I found this the most stupid one.
So you only have the one _ _ _ _ _ ?
 
rootX said:
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I found this the most stupid one.I found this the most stupid one.[/QUOTE] Why stupid? What about accommodation for Siamese twins?

mgb_phys said:
So you only have the one _ _ _ _ _ ?
Siamese twins have two.
 
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mgb_phys said:
No.
Then it got surreal. We taped up the door and put big warning notices not to open it, the health and safety people came and told us off for blocking a fire exit. We pointed out that it opened onto a 15ft drop, but that wasn't their problem - the outside of the building wasn't their responsibility!
:smile:

If I had been there, I'd call them back and as soon as they arrived I would've set up a one-way route just before they'd enter. Call it a customer feeder line. And you know where the route would end...
 
mgb_phys said:
So you only have the one _ _ _ _ _ ?
Most of the others I suspect were done on purpose, are incomplete, or we don't have all the info. The balcony with no window is probably a purposeful architectural feature and in the train tracks one, the train tracks are probably abandoned.
 
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I was reading an online book about "Bad Human Factors Designs"
http://www.baddesigns.com/
Some of the designs are really hilarious.
 
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russ_watters said:
Most of the others I suspect were done on purpose, are incomplete, or we don't have all the info.
The site mentioned that a lot of the buildings ones were from the former Soviet bloc. I suppose a combination of school janitor level of customer service and don't question authority gets you that.
Anybody who has dealt with the buildings/maintenance dept at any university will appreciate those 'designs'.

in the train tracks one, the train tracks are probably abandoned.
Thats the art work - Frank Kunert
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mgb_phys said:
I suppose a combination of school janitor level of customer service and don't question authority gets you that.

I thought densely populated city in an undeveloped country could also have some of them - particularly when people try to build things in the older parts of the city.
 
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Or you just happen to have a Leonardo da Vinci masterpeice where you want a new doorway

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Here's someone who knows how to use a blue print:

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http://www.varini.org/02indc/indgen.html"
 
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mgb_phys said:
The site mentioned that a lot of the buildings ones were from the former Soviet bloc. I suppose a combination of school janitor level of customer service and don't question authority gets you that.
Anybody who has dealt with the buildings/maintenance dept at any university will appreciate those 'designs'.


Thats the art work - Frank Kunert
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I need to become an artist - it is amazing what passes for art these days.

And Monique - that one is clever, and maybe interesting, but jeez - art? Really? I do that kind of thing all the time - I like to make my friends look like drunkards by photographing them with 2 ft tall "pints" of beer at the bar...
 
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There's also such a thing as relying too much on a blueprint and too little on the grey stuff.

Here's an example of a revision cloud on a design:

http://www.autodeskpress.delmar.cengage.com/resources/olcs/acad2005/oct04/markup-3.gif

And here's one that found its way into construction:

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russ_watters said:
I need to become an artist - it is amazing what passes for art these days.

And Monique - that one is clever, and maybe interesting, but jeez - art? Really? I do that kind of thing all the time - I like to make my friends look like drunkards by photographing them with 2 ft tall "pints" of beer at the bar...
Did you really look at his work? I think it definitely is (architectural) art. Or would you think the work that Escher made is not art either?
 
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BobG said:
I like the loop. That would take care of the problem of slow drivers on the interstate.
We have a ceiling on our speeds limits here, but also a floor. And if you're driving below the floor, you had better floor it, or you'll end up on your ceiling.
 
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The mildly infamous Stony brook's bridge to nowhere
 

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