When are you supposed to take the natural log of both sides of an equation?

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The discussion revolves around the conditions and reasoning for taking the natural logarithm of both sides of an equation, particularly in the context of equations involving exponents.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants express uncertainty about the criteria for applying the natural logarithm, questioning whether there are specific clues or rules that indicate when it is appropriate to do so. Some mention that equations involving exponents are a typical case for using logarithms.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the logic behind using natural logarithms, with participants sharing examples and seeking clarification on the underlying principles. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between exponential and logarithmic functions, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are grappling with the concept of inverse operations in relation to logarithms and exponents, and there is a repeated emphasis on the need for a clearer understanding of when to apply these mathematical tools.

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It seems this is done randomly, yet it must not be random, there must be some logic to it, but when do you know to do it? What is like a clue or the rules that indicate you can/should take the natural log of both sides of an equation?
 
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You use "e" to cancel out a natural log of an equation.
 
Jurrasic said:
It seems this is done randomly, yet it must not be random, there must be some logic to it, but when do you know to do it? What is like a clue or the rules that indicate you can/should take the natural log of both sides of an equation?

If you have an equation that involves exponents, that's a natural for taking the log of both sides.

For example, if ex + 2 = 3, we can take the natural log of both sides to get
ln(ex + 2) = ln(3)
x + 2 = ln(3)
x = -2 + ln(3) ≈ -1.307
 
Jurrasic said:
It seems this is done randomly, yet it must not be random, there must be some logic to it, but when do you know to do it? What is like a clue or the rules that indicate you can/should take the natural log of both sides of an equation?

The key to understand is you use an inverse operation or a sequence of inverse operations to reveal a formula for an unknown but sought variable. An exponential function is the inverse of a logarithmic function. You would do something similar if you wanted to clear for an additive inverse or a multiplicative inverse.

Mark44's example to illustrate is a good one.

Note that logb(bx)=x
 

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