When does this derivative equal 7

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The discussion revolves around solving a derivative equation to find when it equals 7. The derivative in question is expressed as a fraction involving a polynomial and a square root.

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  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the problem, questioning whether it means to find the derivative at t=7 or the values of t where the derivative equals 7. There are attempts to manipulate the equation, including dividing and squaring both sides, while some participants express confusion about the correct form of the derivative function.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, clarifying interpretations and exploring algebraic manipulations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the expansion of squared terms and the importance of checking for extraneous solutions after squaring.

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There is a noted ambiguity in the expression of the derivative function due to formatting, which affects the clarity of the problem. Participants are also reminded of the potential pitfalls of squaring both sides of an equation.

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Homework Statement



Solving a derivative for when it equals to 7.

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[tex]p'(t) = {88t+210}/{2\sqrt{44t^{2}+210t}[/tex]

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[tex]7(2\sqrt{44t^{2}+210t}) = {88t+210}[/tex]

This is where I get stuck. Do I divied both sides by 7 then again by 2? then I would square both sides to get (88/14 - 15)^{2}. Then I expand, set it to 0 and use quadratic formula?
 
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I'm a bit confused.
Solving a derivative for when it equals to 7.
At first glance I would assume this means "find the derivative where the variable t=7" but from what you've done, I guess it must instead mean "find the value(s) of t where the derivative is 7". Is this correct?

Now, without using parenthesis it's impossible to be certain what the derivative function actually is:
[tex]p'(t) = {88t+210}/{2\sqrt{44t^{2}+210t}[/tex]
but judging by your last line:
[tex]7(2\sqrt{44t^{2}+210t}) = {88t+210}[/tex]

I'm now assuming you mean [tex]p'(t) = \frac{88t+210}{2\sqrt{44t^{2}+210t}}[/tex]
Again, is this correct?


Finally, if all is correct thus far, yes that is exactly how you would go about solving it :smile: But remember to check your answers because once you square both sides, you might have extra solutions that don't work.
 


Yes! that is what i meant :).

The problem is, though, when I get to this:

[tex]7(2\sqrt{44t^{2}+210t}) = {88t+210}[/tex]

I divide out the seven on both side to get
[tex]2\sqrt{44t^{2}+210t} = {88/7t+30}[/tex]

then again by 2

[tex]\sqrt{44t^{2}+210t} = {88/14t+15}[/tex]

Now, when I square both side? do I write it like this:[tex]{44t^{2}+210t = ({88/14t+15})^{2}[/tex]

which I just expand out?
 
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You can expand it. Don't forget that you can reduce 88/14.
 


Bohrok said:
You can expand it. Don't forget that you can reduce 88/14.


How come I can't just take the square of 44t/14 and 15?
 


because (a+b)^2 does not equal a^2+b^2
in fact it is: a^2+2ab+b^2
try with numbers. (3+4)^2 doesn't equal 3^2+4^2
 

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