When Should 'g' Be Negative in Physics Equations?

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The discussion revolves around the appropriate use of the acceleration due to gravity, 'g', in physics equations, particularly in the context of kinematics. Participants explore when 'g' should be considered negative or positive based on the defined coordinate system and the direction of motion.

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  • The original poster questions the conditions under which 'g' should be negative in equations, expressing confusion about its application. Some participants suggest defining a coordinate system to determine the sign of 'g', while others note that textbooks often adopt specific conventions based on the direction of motion.

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Participants have provided insights into the use of 'g' in different contexts, emphasizing the importance of a defined coordinate system. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations regarding the sign of 'g' based on motion direction, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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There is mention of varying conventions in textbooks regarding the sign of 'g' depending on the initial conditions of motion, highlighting potential confusion in applying these principles in problem-solving.

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Hi PF, just a quick question that always seems to confuse me.. when should 'g' be negative in equations? Intuitively, I tend to always substitute -9.81 m/s into equations but it seems that this can be incorrect in special cases.

Are there certain situations where 'g' should be or shouldn't be negative??

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Jess.
 
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For kinematics equations, when you're using g as the acceleration, define a coordinate system first. That is, define an axis and choose a direction to be positive. If the acceleration due to gravity is in that direction, you use positive g. If the acceleration is in the opposite direction, you use negative g.

For equations like F=mg, you never want to use -g in place of g. This is because you want F to be positive, since positive forces are easier to think about.
 
Thank you so much! Great explanation.
 
Just adding to ideasrule's excellent explanation...

I've noticed that textbooks tend to use upward as the positive direction (a=-9.81 m/s2) when the motion is upward, or at least is upward at the beginning of a projectile's trajectory. Downward might be taken as positive (a=+9.81 m/s2), but only when the motion is always downward, i.e. the object is initially falling or it is dropped from rest.

If you're ever in doubt in a kinematics problem, just take upward as positive and use -9.81 m/s2.

p.s. Welcome to Physics Forums, jteh.
 

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