When to Consider a Body as a Point-Like Object: Factors and Applications

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A three-dimensional body can be treated as a point-like body in calculations when its geometric properties are not significant, such as in gravitational fields where a spherically symmetric body can be simplified to a point mass. This simplification is also applicable when analyzing the motion of rigid bodies through the concept of center of mass, allowing for easier calculations of acceleration under applied forces. Additionally, in practical scenarios like playing pool, treating balls as points simplifies the calculations for angles and collisions. The discussion highlights the balance between theoretical accuracy and practical convenience in physics. Understanding when to apply this simplification is crucial for effective problem-solving in various contexts.
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my question is as follows:
when do we need to consider a three dimension body as a point like body in our calclulations?
i mean outside our theoretical/homework practices when should we assume the body as a point like?

one thing i can think of is when the geometric properties of a body is not important and therefore isn't taken into consideration into our calculations.
and maybe also when the body is a particle but other than that i don't know.
 
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When it makes it easier or possible to solve the problem.
 
loop quantum gravity said:
my question is as follows:
when do we need to consider a three dimension body as a point like body in our calclulations?
i mean outside our theoretical/homework practices when should we assume the body as a point like?

one thing i can think of is when the geometric properties of a body is not important and therefore isn't taken into consideration into our calculations.
and maybe also when the body is a particle but other than that i don't know.

We can treat the Newtonian gravitational field (GM/r^2) of a spherically symmetric body as if the body were a point.

The center of mass is a useful concept for the motion of rigid bodies as well. If we apply a force to a rigid body, we know that the acceleration of the center of mass is F/m.
 
I don't do much in the way of science other than haunting these premises. My experience with your question actually is the basis of how I play and teach pool. When calculating how to hit a ball, I treat each one as a mathematical point rather than a spherical object. I then envision what angle to fire a laser at in order to achieve the proper 'reflection', followed by extrapolating the radii in order to accommodate the edge-to-edge contact of the balls.
 
Danger said:
I don't do much in the way of science other than haunting these premises. My experience with your question actually is the basis of how I play and teach pool. When calculating how to hit a ball, I treat each one as a mathematical point rather than a spherical object. I then envision what angle to fire a laser at in order to achieve the proper 'reflection', followed by extrapolating the radii in order to accommodate the edge-to-edge contact of the balls.
and ofcourse you always lose... :smile: :cry:
 
loop quantum gravity said:
and ofcourse you always lose... :smile: :cry:
Oooh... you sting me! (Wanna play for $$$? :-p )
 
I do not have a good working knowledge of physics yet. I tried to piece this together but after researching this, I couldn’t figure out the correct laws of physics to combine to develop a formula to answer this question. Ex. 1 - A moving object impacts a static object at a constant velocity. Ex. 2 - A moving object impacts a static object at the same velocity but is accelerating at the moment of impact. Assuming the mass of the objects is the same and the velocity at the moment of impact...

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