Where and How are tRNA's Synthesized?

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The discussion centers on the synthesis of tRNA, exploring where and how tRNAs are produced in the cell, particularly in relation to mRNA synthesis and the role of RNA polymerases. The conversation touches on evolutionary aspects of tRNA and RNA's dual role as genetic material and enzymatic molecules.

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  • Some participants note that tRNAs are synthesized through transcription by RNA polymerase III, unlike mRNAs which are synthesized by RNA polymerase II.
  • It is mentioned that tRNAs do not undergo capping and polyadenylation like mRNAs due to the different factors associated with the respective RNA polymerases.
  • There is a suggestion that initial tRNA may be necessary for the creation of RNA polymerase, raising questions about the evolution of the first tRNA and the relationship between DNA and tRNA.
  • Participants express interest in the concept of ribozymes, suggesting that early life forms may have utilized RNA for both genetic and enzymatic functions before proteins became predominant.

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Participants express curiosity and propose various ideas regarding the synthesis and evolutionary significance of tRNA, but there is no consensus on the implications of these ideas or the specifics of tRNA evolution.

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The discussion includes speculative ideas about the evolutionary relationship between tRNA and DNA, as well as the role of ribozymes, but these points remain unresolved and are based on participants' interpretations.

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mRNA is synthesized during transcription,but where and how are the tRNA's synthesized?
 
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tRNAs are also made by transcription, by a different RNA polymerase (RNA polymerase III) than is used for mRNA synthesis (RNA polymerase II). Because the factors involved in mRNA capping and polyadenylation are physically associated with RNA polymerase II and not RNA polymerase III, tRNAs do not undergo capping and polyadenylation like mRNAs. tRNAs, however do undergo extensive post-transcriptional processing to get them into their final form.
 
Ygggdrasil said:
tRNAs are also made by transcription, by a different RNA polymerase (RNA polymerase III) than is used for mRNA synthesis (RNA polymerase II). Because the factors involved in mRNA capping and polyadenylation are physically associated with RNA polymerase II and not RNA polymerase III, tRNAs do not undergo capping and polyadenylation like mRNAs. tRNAs, however do undergo extensive post-transcriptional processing to get them into their final form.

So you need tRNA molecules to create more tRNA molecules? Because I would think initial tRNA is necessary to create RNA polymerase, Thats interesting, wonder how the first tRNA evolved. And you would need a DNA sequence that aligned with the produced type of tRNA in order to create proteins, maybe DNA evolved around tRNA... Hmmmm Hahah, Off topic, I know.
 
That Neuron said:
So you need tRNA molecules to create more tRNA molecules? Because I would think initial tRNA is necessary to create RNA polymerase, Thats interesting, wonder how the first tRNA evolved. And you would need a DNA sequence that aligned with the produced type of tRNA in order to create proteins, maybe DNA evolved around tRNA... Hmmmm Hahah, Off topic, I know.

What's fascinating about RNA is that it can act both as genetic material (like DNA) and as enzymatic molecules (like proteins) e.g http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribozyme" posits that early life used RNA in both capacities until the evolution of proteins took over most of the jobs.
 
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ryan_m_b said:
What's fascinating about RNA is that it can act both as genetic material (like DNA) and as enzymatic molecules (like proteins) e.g http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribozyme" posits that early life used RNA in both capacities until the evolution of proteins took over most of the jobs.

Ahh yeah I've head of Ribozymes before, I'll have to look more into that. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18623-did-midwife-molecule-assemble-first-life-on-earth.html might find this interesting aswell
 
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